Our guest, Randy Green, is a Plant gGrower and Pest Management Specialist with over 10 years of hands-on experience in the field. His expertise in plant pathology and entomology, coupled with his commitment to staying up-to-date with the latest research and techniques, has led to numerous successful pest management strategies and disease control measures. Currently, Randy specializes in working with roses, and his passion for these plants shines through in his work as Supervisor of Plant Health at Heirloom Roses in Oregon. Today, he’ll share an innovative program to protect your garden the natural way, with nature’s own guardians delivered to your door each month of the growing season, right when you need them most.
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Yes indeed we are back we made it back on Facebook live back on bis talk radio we appreciate those who are tuned in right now as we kick things off off last week yes we were John beg Nesco myself Brian M tiger P Fox we are back couple
Of two or three people say it’s good to have us back John in fact Rick from Idaho says goog well goog to you Rick this must be something uh a new phrase out there they’re introducing an is is that a typo it could be good we right we
Welcome you Rick no matter what you type or what you say we love you since you bring up Idaho uh last week uh we had some nice days right yeah it was in the 70s but there was one day that was cool and uh I
Was telling my wife too bad we’re not in Idaho they’re two degrees warmer than us today oh what is that right what day was that I was thinking it was like Monday or Tuesday there’s been some states that have had rather warm spells across the country that that are normally you know
Colder than we are yeah well that one area the banana belt there is usually much warmer yeah than you would think by the way happy spring to both you guys that’s right uh this week we officially kicked off Spring 2024 right I couldn’t make your party I’m sorry I apologize
That was the uh vernal equinox right named after Vern Vern goon is that a real person he’s he’s a country singer ver joh I was like is that just a made hey I wanted to I should have taken a picture maybe I’ll do it for next week’s
Newsletter but um is your dandelion tree blooming yes I have another species oh the one you have is uh Paul mansis right and I have the same thing okay yes like John says you have this yeah exactly I have’s like okay well no he was uh yeah
I’m trying to think of I didn’t want I didn’t want people H the conversation is joh accelerating his point yeah and after that diversion we lost everything we saved by me doing we have another one you have another I have a different species that I got at the Huntington
Gardens plant sale last year uhhuh and uh camera’s pointing to me now but each Bloom there’s two blooms on it each one and I’m not exaggerating is this big really you know men have a hundreds and hundreds are you sure because men have a tendency to exaggerate are are you sure
I mean it’s so big Brian it’s bigger than your my dandelion tree is bigger than your dandelion tree you know uh as we said a million times pictures love to see that picture what did I just say maybe I’ll put in a picture next week’s newsletter this is it a bigger it’s a
Directive yes it’s a bigger plant too yeah I could look up the species but okay if I do I’ll never find the show again yeah my um my dandelion tree is blooming my paintbrush Lily is blooming my not because something ate it I left it I
I dug it up to move it and it was in a 5 gallon container for a year with no soil what are you Brian I hate to admit that in front of Brian okay now I was just kidding when I told you that you don’t need soil yeah yeah John was taking
Notes that day no soil so is it still alive but just not blooming well there were the bulbs were just sitting in the container oh so I I planted them and they came up with leaves now okay but no blooms so I I imagine they’ll Bloom next year my C
Your C is in bloom I have all a sudden it took I mean this thing sat in the pot couple of years like okay just kind of leave it alone it wasn’t dying it wasn’t getting better and this past month or two Springs sprung to life Springs to
Life what whatever the ter what’s that you said a cal Lily right yes what what kind what color just the white it’s I don’t you know what I don’t know it’s one of those No Label in a plastic pot that I had shoved off to the side is the
Flower white yeah yeah yeah yes I’m sorry nice deep the leaves look a leaf guy is it maybe two feet tall or is it only like a foot tall about a foot tall oh so it’s one of the more like Compact and I don’t know much about it because
For so long it was like in the corner of the patio and didn’t pay much attention all of a sudden it’s like where did you come from there’s a giant white kala do you guys sell those yeah y gets to be like six feet tall yeah well that’s just
Ridiculous I’m happy I’m happy with a foot or two I just saw one this week and I’m like oh I need one of those in my yard so I was it’s funny you mention that because I see them blooming now and I’m now I’m looking at where am I going
To put that in my yard now the leaves are nice everything about it deep green leaves you know I’m a leaf guy John you know Hercules if I’m not mistaken I think you’re right yeah I have some fig trees at my house if you want fig leaves
If you’re into leaves oh yeah we could do that again do that again leafes is not a word it would be leaves right leaves right yeah fig leaves anyway uh more and more people tuning in right now welcoming those on Facebook live those on bis talk radio who by the way check
In every now and then we welcome you I wanted to tell tiger too that I’m hoping next year it will maybe even this summer it’ll Bloom because I planted my um what was the South African bulb the brunsvigia I planted it in the so I’m really anxious to see that bloom
You gave me one of those too right I did and now mine is foliage no Bloom you’re still in a container though no I planted did you plant it I planted it when four months ago oh maybe maybe yours will Bloom too I’m I’m hoping it’s looking looking good they bloom without
Foliage and you know what it’s else’s buted up that you gave me the dayes you gave me a couple dayes and buted they’re bu not in bloom yet yeah oh interesting yeah boy my day L Le were shredded oh why because of snails oh wow I need killer snails I’ve not had
Any snail problems so far you know our buddy Steve and SEI Valley says he’s got hundreds and hundreds of killer snails just have him ship them to you I should or we talk to Randy today and oh yeah Randy’s Our Guest right excited about our guest beneficial insects okay we’ll
Have to ask I don’t know if he knows the answer to why there are no decet sales yet well I don’t think they would have anything to do with decet snails why well because you can’t sell them anywhere right well you can so why would they well certain counties you can and
Others you can’t correct in Southern California there’s Seven Counties but I’m saying you can’t I don’t think you can order them from other states oh really right plus he’s doing insects not mollusks oh okay thank you for clarifying that yeah it’s uh I’m really interested to hear what he has to say
Because there’s not a lot of new things that happen like new Concepts that happen in the gardening industry that are just you know make you stop and think why Why did no one ever think of this before Y and this is a great idea so you want to make sure you listen to
That right what’s Randy’s last name green thank you is it green no I don’t know oh no I’m just because I read the newsletter and and read his his bio um anyway it is green Randy green well how appropriate all right John uh quote of
The week we still have a few a few minutes until the end of the segment we’ll take our break and get a hold of Randy green but what about that quote of the Week John yeah it’s from one of your favorite people Percy bis Shelly I know Percy Faith I’m not sure
That I’m familiar with this person know Shelly Keats Byron the English poets vaguely you you’re you’re now you’re dipping into the the recesses of my brain Lord Byron and oh yeah absolutely yes yeah okay when you put it that way tiger thinks Lord Byron is a plumia yeah exactly you wouldn’t be
Wrong do you know that all those poets Keats and Shelly that they all died uh in their late 20s early 30s yeah because because they expressed so much emotion in their poetry that nothing left it just anyway Shelly said that I think that the leaf of a
Tree uh the meanest insect on which we trample what is he saying I you can can you start over again yeah I think that the leaf of a tree the meanest insect on which we trample are in themselves arguments more conclusive than any which can be adduced that some vast intellect animates
Infinity wow all right now was deep John I read that yesterday when the newsletter came you read same way oh I thought I’m an idiot I I’m supposed to understand this I’m embarrassed that I don’t understand this I understand it I just can’t read it it just sounds like a
Bunch of words thrown together no what do you saying in other words don’t step on leaves no he said I think that the leaf of a tree right the meanest insect on which we trample so those are two things right right Leaf of a tree smallest yeah the small yeah not mean like
Nasty but tiny right he says in themselves their arguments more conclusive than any which can be adduced that some vast intellect animates Infinity it doesn’t matter how you read that it doesn’t sound no sense it’s just stumbling along had we just read that and not laughed about it I think listeners would
Have been thinking wow wow but I like I was watching John read that and as he started I saw the expression change he’s like a leaf of what did I put looking at it and look he’s trying to read ahead like is this going to connect and make sense
Yeah uh okay so that said I think we’ll take our break get a hold of Randy green y You’re Gonna Want to be here for that those on Facebook live of course those on bis talk radio this is last week’s show by the way Randy will make a lot
More sense than that quote just yes he will so do stay with us we’re going to take a break for our fine sponsors on bis talk radio Facebook live by the way this show as always brought To Us by our good friends at fertilome stay with us
Brian M John basar tiger palifox back after these messages on bis talk radio e okay we are back from the break it is Garden America of course uh we wouldn’t be anything else but Garden America right John that’s who we are we keep saying we’re Garden America but I think
By this time we know that well you wanted to do garden world that’s not bad Garden world but Garden America is better Garden America is better by the way you know we didn’t talk about this earlier and I know we’re going to Randy but I I’m so proud I’m at
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Face I I had to whack it okay a whacka mole is M and with that in mind we’re going to go to tiger right now as we say in the business tossing to Tiger who will bring on our guest Randy green yeah so this morning we have Randy green
Joining us from Heirloom Roses and Randy is a season grower and Pest Management specialist with more than 10 years of experience uh working with Plant Pathology and entomology um he’s kind of leading the charge over there at Heirloom Roses on some new innovative ways when it comes to Pest Management uh
Randy good morning thank you for joining us good morning thank you for having me I really appreciate it yeah so Randy first off tell us a little bit about your your background because um you know I mean you you’ve taken a couple uh different paths to where you’re at today
But they’ve all kind of worked together and getting you to the point where now you’re working with roses you’re working with Pest and you know incorporating that with what Heirloom Roses uh goal is to achieve I mean you know it’s kind of a a a neat method to your Madness over
There so um how did you get involved with Heirloom Roses uh so it was kind of a long journey getting involved with Heirloom Roses I’ve known about Heirloom Roses for quite a long time I’ve always really liked their roses and their selections that they had on their uh previously on
Their catalog but then on their website um so I was working just at any Nursery that would take me really um I was doing side hustles at my own home selling plants out of my backyard um kind of whatever anyone would buy uh because you know how it is working in the nursery
Industry during the during the winter time there’s a lot of downtime and so I would just really take whatever job I could get and that that really provided me with a lot of unique opportunities to work with a lot of really talented and interesting individuals and learn you
Know a lot about the trade uh through them and through Reading and research and um you know one day um I was on my my phone um the place that I was working at was getting ready to sell the business and I was on my phone and I was
Like you know I I really just want something more stable and like more in line with what I want to do and I’d always wanted to work with roses and it was really weird I opened my email and there’s there’s an email Heirloom Roses is hiring for their position and I went
Ahead and I uh turned in my resume with them and uh you know through a long interview process there’s from my understanding quite a few different candidates that I was going up against and uh you know it was just like a was kind of like a a dream come true uh they
Called me and had a phone interview and we we did several uh in-person interviews and uh finally you know after about a month they’re like we’re going to offer you the job and you know I was really excited and happy to take it and how long have you been with heirloom
Now um so I have been with Heirloom Roses for about a year and a half going on to my second year in October I believe okay all right and and um what is your kind of like official position there with uh the Roses officially I’m the grower and supervisor of plant
Health okay that’s a pretty big title that’s a responsibility yeah I mean it’s a huge responsibility it’s it’s it’s very demanding and as I’m sure you guys know um being a grower any company um is very demanding plants are plants have a lot of care requirements and they have a
Lot of needs and uh it never stops so yeah I mean sounds like kids right John over here I thought the same thing John over here has his uh thousands of roses um that he takes care of you know what what kind of number are you guys producing out of arloom over
There so there is about 750,000 scatterable stock at AR roses um and that’s just in our green houses so that doesn’t include stock field see John you got nothing to complain have John 1500 right John first of all I I never complain oh that’s true you don’t ever
You should be talking to my wife and saying see Shannon you have nothing to complain about hey so Randy once you got into that position I’m sure you you knew what some of your responsibilities would be what anything surprised you what about what what is it about the job that
You had to go wow I really need to brush up on this or I wasn’t expecting that or this is going to be a big challenge what are some of those things um you know like no really big challenges come to mind I felt I felt
Like I was where where I belonged when I got into the position um I had been used to so I had been operating a small business on my own for quite some time prior to that um I did a fair bit of Consulting as well um with various
Different companies in the state of Oregon as they’re establishing themselves um and so I got like I said I got a lot of different experiences beforehand and so I’ve had a lot of time to work in these various areas uh throughout the nursery industries that really prepped me for this position it
Was almost like uh you know like it was almost like God handed me a position I was like this is where you need to be in your life this is where I want you and uh I didn’t have really any anything that was crazy outside my wheelhouse I felt I felt very
Uh like it was very meant to be yeah just like like the last piece of a puzzle it fit right there and and and there you are yeah I would say divine intervention it sounds like it just just happened to such a degree that you fit
Right in and a year and a half later you still love it right absolutely yes I love it to death and uh you know I I like you know being a grower it demands long hours and things like that um this is one of those positions where
You know they really encourage you to you know take care and you know have your free time and have a good work life balance but plants at the end of the day are demanding and they have a lot of needs and you know every day it’s like I
Look forward to getting up and I look forward to going to work and I look forward to being there and there’s very few if any times where I’m like man I just want to at home like I love being with the plants and I love being with
The RO yeah it’s called passion yeah we we get it absolutely uh tiger we’ve got about a minute yeah so you know Randy I know you guys are are working on new some new things there with the um you know beneficial insects and you know the
Process as far as what you’re growing um like Brian said we have about a minute before we’re going to take a break but when we get back from the break I want you to expand on some of the things that you’re doing there to grow out these roses I mean 750,000
Roses you know I mean when it comes to you know plant Health as far as pest disease you know and you’re growing them you know in outdoor environments Greenhouse environments I’m sure that it comes with its own uh list of challenges so when we get back from the Break um I
Want you to be able to have your time to be able to expand on on what you guys at Heirloom Roses are doing there your bet we’re going to take a break for bis talk radio thank you to our many sponsors this show brought To Us by fom those by
The way on Facebook live when we get back any questions comments for Randy or one of us uh go ahead and post that in the comment section Garden America continues I’m Brian M John beg NASCAR tyap palifox back after these messages on bis talk radio we are back from the break as
Always we trust you had a good break we did too Facebook live bis talk radio John’s excited to be here so am I tiger palifox I’m Brian Maine back to Randy green tiger as we get more and more into this uh this discussion and find out more about Randy’s day-to-day activity
With what he’s doing yeah so Randy you know when talking with Robin over there at heirloom about your guys’s program um you know she was she was mentioning on how you guys are kind of introducing you know a a better CARE program for your
Roses um so you know what is it that you guys are doing differently at heirloom that maybe is kind of new or Innovative well at heirloom uh we’re using about uh beneficial insects for about 80 to 85% of our Pest Control uh our pest control program so that’s very
Unusual for a nursery of that scale um most people are using a lot of insecticides in conjunction with the beneficial insects uh we have generally maybe one to two applications at most throughout the year but the rest of our process is uh using beneficial insects for control of pests um on the nursery
And so um we do very minimal spot sprays and we’re using very gentle chemistry uh compared to uh some of the chemistry that’s out there and some of the chemistry that most of the traditional nurseries are using and so that’s something that we feel very proud of but now now you’ve made
This am I turned on why am I you go you’re good John we’ll turn you on go ahead all right well what I’m really excited about is uh integrated Pest Management has occurred in a lot of nurseries around the country uh so that’s really nothing new but for the
First time Heirloom Roses is making this available to the homeowner and it’s nothing you really even have to think about right Randy when you sign up for this program you send out the beneficials uh I think it costs so much a month and the beneficials are shipped
To you wherever you live at the right time to make applications in your garden so if you want you can actually grow roses organically without any uh any chemical fertilizers or harsh harsh chemical sprays absolutely so we in conjunction with offering the beneficial insects we also offer organic fertilizers as well
So if you’re wanting to go 100% organic we were able to provide that to the customer uh kind of the final piece of that puzzle was introducing the beneficial inex and what we really tried to do was we analyze what are the worst pests that uh kind of attacked roses
What are the most common pests and we built a beneficial insect program around that idea of like what are people going to experience What are problems that people are going to be dealing with in their garden and we try to give them a little bit of everything to be able to
Take care of those things um one of the main things that I’ve noticed uh throughout my years is that if you go to like a consumer-based website and you try to purchase just beneficial insects from there the price tag is just astronomical you could be spending three
Four $500 to really get everything that you’re getting out of the subscription box um we have a very wide variety of beneficial insects that um I should say predatory insects uh that we are providing in the subscription program and that’s not something that you can easily get through other or other
Avenues so yeah I think you know I mean you know what you guys have launched on the like Kickstarter program you know that you’re not just sending out ladybugs and prey mantis and I’m not trying to badmouth lady bugs in prey mantis they they do their job and they’re probably the most common
Beneficial insects that we all know and they’re a big part of our audience so we don’t want to D most people are familiar with those yeah but but I mean like you know Randy you guys are describing these are things that you guys are using on a grower level to be
Able to control pest Within These plants I mean um you know uh I’m just going to read off it’s it’s on the kickstarter program so I’m going to butcher all of this but Cal fornicus Guardians you know and this is talking about um you know being able to
Attack like spider mites and things like that and you know cimus Commandos and you know these are uh tiny arachnoids that you know also control things like thrips and whitefly and and the list goes on and on that these are all beneficial insects that nobody is currently kind of like aware of that
Occur in nature you know help solve you know these problems that work within the environment of where you’re at so like what you are saying what you’re doing on a grower level of you know growing out this merchandise for consumers you guys are using these products to help you so
You don’t have to use chemicals so you don’t have to introduce things that are artificial and possibly hurt you know other pest out there or blood bugs out there um that you know home gardeners are going to now incorporate in their yard and you guys are going to put
Together a program that every month you’re going to send out the proper product at the proper time for that use so you know it takes a lot of the uh guests work out of it too it’s a really neat program and I’m assuming that probably a lot of it came from you in
Your research of what’s worked well in growing and what hasn’t and now you guys are passing that information on to Consumers I think that’s what John is so so excited about this is a tried and tested and environment in a and probably I would say that growing roses is
Probably one of the most difficult things when it comes to a grower does because you got a dormant period you got your grow period you got your pest period you got your disease and you know to be able to manage all that and now provide that information to Consumers is
A pretty exciting thing so John are you going to have that program for your roses now well I’ll tell you you know I I don’t spray any of my roses and I I don’t think you could find an AIT anywhere in my yard but the things I do
Have that I was really excited about our thrips MH you know uh that infest the flowers and and especially people who exhibit roses they’re always concerned you know about thrips and they’re using harsh sprays so how good are the is the thrips control with your program I think it’s very good um you
Know there’s there’s things that we had to taken into consideration when we’re building a program like this like uh like cost uh we are not making a massive amount of money off this this is something that we’re doing to um you know provide the homeowners with the
Same tools and tactics that we use um and so you know eventually we’d ideally like to increase our offerings to help out with uh have more targeted DP approaches but we do have targeted DP approaches in that program so the Cucas are going to be a very good beneficial
Insect for that um as well as the Green Lace Wing larva I don’t know if you know much about green lacing larva but they’re just kind of aggressive generalists and they attack just about everything they stab things for fun they you know did you say they stab things
For fun kill you said they attack things for fun I thought you said they stab things for fun like just and it’s crazy because you see the you see the larel stage of those of those bugs and you think oh what a what an aggressive mean
Looking bug and then they grow into an adult and they’ve got these nice pretty little wings and they’re green little bug and they you know fly around and they look really pretty when they’re in the air and um you know they they’re they’re just so aggressive it’s just so surprising to
See them as adult you would expect them to be like a lot more like a dragonfly or something really nasty looking and they they don’t turn out to be they turn out to be very pretty actually you you should probably let our listeners know what their eggs look like so that they
Don’t uh destroy those so the eggs are going to be on a filament on the bottoms and sometimes the tops of the leaves and the egg is attached to that filament to deter Predators so um when you’re working in with like predatory insects there’s there’s like a constant
Microscopic I don’t want to say microscopic but a very small battle going on all around you uh and it’s the Predator insects versus other Predator insects versus other bad insects and as you know apids uh Farm or sorry ants Farm aids for their honey you um similar
To the way we uh Farm cattle and so what will happen is is that ants will actually try to attack the eggs of the Green Lace wing and so they put them on that filament and the egg is attached at the bottom of this it almost looks like
A little white hair and the eggs are white um and you’ll see them at the at the ends of these hairs and what that does is it allows the uh the eggs to be unnoticed by the ants the ants cannot attack them you know and and you bring
Up a great point because for a lot of these beneficial bugs it’s their um kind of like larvae state that is the more voracious attacker of you know the bad bugs and stuff like that you know ladybugs you know when they’re an adult they eat aphids but they’re more verious
When they’re actually in their larval state so you know that’s what you’re introducing is you’re introducing these bugs and you might be introducing them as adults but you’re hoping that they’re going to reproduce and populate because then when they’re in that egg into the Lara into the adult that’s when you’re
Going to get the real benefits hey Randy we’re going to have to take another break right now lots of fun stuff to still chat about when we get back we’ll continue chatting with Randy with Heirloom Roses and I’ll post a link to that program that they’re talking about
With the beneficial insects yep couple of questions on Facebook live as well thank you for tuning in on bis talk radio Garden America Brian M John beg nesar tiger palifox Randy green is our guest and again as tiger mentioned a lot of good information stay with us a lot
More to come here on Garden America welcome back from the break by the way those on bis talk radio this is the final segment of your hour number one hopefully you catch us the second hour we come back at 6 minutes after uh you’ve got news coming up top of the
Hour the rest of us here on Facebook live we keep on rolling along thank you so much for joining us Randy green is with us and again a great thing they’re doing as far as just dipping into what’s already there in terms of what nature provides and you know we we call them
Beneficial insects I think uh Randy at one point during our conversation did you say predatory insects as well uh yes so beneficial insects is kind of just a blanket term for um anything that has a positive benefit to your Garden uh these are going to be more in the realm of predatory insects
So I like to I like to make that distinguish uh that clear absolutely John go ahead well we do have a question from a listener in Idaho and Kevin want says that uh Canon Beach Oregon’s the hydrangea capital of the world and he wants to know if heirloom specializes in
Any other types of flowers or plants other than roses uh yeah so this year we’re going to be launching herbaceous perennials uh I’m not the person to get into heavy detail on that that’s something that the that the gals have put together uh there over at heirloom uh Robin being one of them
Um and you know the the rest of the people on the team have really put a lot of work into that and you know the Roses keep me very busy so it was just one one extra thing where it was like you know I don’t I don’t want to particularly get
Too involved in this right and it gave us it gave our propagation supervisor the opportunity to really delve in and you know hone in on our expertise there so now uh heirloom was uh doing quite a bit with hydranges in the past I don’t know if they still are are are you the
Propagator for those or is that another grower uh that’s another grower okay sorry I’m trying to I’m trying to quite a few like I said quite a few different uh companion plants on on our website and those if I’m not mistaken are launched right right as right now as
We speak so there will be a category within the website they can they can do those and choose from those that brings up another question on these companion plants are any of them going to be host plants for some of the insects that are in your program glad you asked that
Unfortunately it was time we do not have uh uh any sort of plants that are beneficial uh for the beneficial insect M um but if you want to on your own or if anybody wants to on their own to bring things into their Garden they can
Bring things like oat wheat that will be really helpful for the irvy and the colani uh they work as like kind of a breeding ground for them so that you can keep numbers high in your garden um along with the monthly reintroductions uh you can also do
Caster plants those work really well for the Cucas and californicus and other predatory mites uh I do have to mention though uh if you’re going to be planting Castor plants the seeds of castor plants are very dangerous um so if you have animals or children you should take Extreme Caution when planting those
Kinds of plants but also ornamental peppers work really well for pirate bugs those will come into your garden with those um and it also helps provide a hospitable environment for the californ kiss and other that like that hey had a a quick question that you may not know
The answer to because it’s more of a southern problem I think at this point but you mentioned that um you mentioned that uh some of your beneficials or some of your predatory insects took care of thrips do they also take care of um uh Cuban thps that are affecting roses in warm climates
Yeah so our beneficial insec program the cucam and the California kiss are switched out uh per the temperatures throughout the United States so we tried to design it when the when we’re early in the when it’s early in the summer and the temperatures are a little bit more
Mild and low we have the Cucas um and then we switch over to the californicus which is also an aggressive Predator they’re going to help out with thrips but the green lacewing also are going to help out with thrips uh there’s really I’m sure you guys probably know this but
There’s not really a lot of chemistry that’s particularly effective against the thrift right and so um we kind of as a society we’ve sprayed so many chemicals trying to get rid of thrips that they’ve all become resistant to them and so honestly uh your best bet is actually going to be beneficial for
Predatory insects to take care of them um if one wanted to and these are you know offerings that we want to expand on in the future but if one wanted to they could order pirate bugs as well which are going to be able to go inside the flowers and predominantly work inside
The flowers to take care of those THS pirate bugs are orus Insidious so um just to let our listeners know I’ve been busy I posted a link to the heirloomroses.com product selection for their Guardians of the garden uh package and heirloom also has been nice enough to share with us a
Discount code insect 10 if you do use that during the purchase you get 10% off of your your purchase um from the beneficials there so um anyways yeah heirloom roses.com um Guardians of the garden and then it insex 10 is a coupon uh code to be able to save 10% off that
Purchase um you know Randy when it comes to you know I it’s it’s it’s so neat to hear our grower with all this information because I mean you know like you just mentioned I think most big growers in in the industry will be like oh we got thrips
We’re GNA just spray the whole lot with this product um and you know it’s you know but like you’re saying like even if you do spray it it’s not that effective so why continue down that path when you can rethink it and you know manage things a little bit differently and be
Able to be more successful with the use of these his program is also known as boots on the ground yeah there go yes exactly well and that’s the thing too is like when we when we continue to spray these uh this chemistry when it’s not effective uh it’s actually better for us
To take a break from it if we stop spraying it for a while the that resistance will eventually breed itself away and so um you know like a couple years ago I forget what the product was called uh but uh you know everybody kind of collectively agreed not the Growers
Collectively agreed not to use that chemistry anymore because it was kind of the last line of defense and you know now that those some of that chemistry is available to the hom Growers with Amazon and uh other avenues like that um I think we’re starting to like that plan
Where we all you know collectively agreed not to use that stuff anymore um kind of fell apart because people are getting their hands on some very dangerous chemistry uh on things like Amazon uh and I see extremely scary reviews on some of them where people are like oh it doesn’t smell like anything
And it’s like you know you’re spraying Avid and hey hey Randy sorry to cut you off but we do have to pause just for a break but we’ll can pick right back up when we get back we’ve got a couple of questions two or three questions when we
Return as well uh those on bis talk radio news coming up we come back at six minutes after we do hope you can catch us in the meantime for our Facebook live viewers and listeners we are coming back much quicker do stay with us as we continue our conversation with Randy
Green this is Garden America Brian John beg Nesco tiger palifox welcome back to the show Garden America this is hour number two if you’re tuned in on Biz talk radio Facebook live thank you for being right there with us as we get together again Brian mne John beg nasar tiger palifox
Some questions tiger back to you we’ll continue with Dave green and get into more of these uh of these situations with predatory insects yeah Randy is our guest with Heirloom Roses you said Dave Green did I say Dave Green yes you did but um but you know Randy you know we
Were cutting you off and it was at a very important part and I’m sorry about that yeah sorry Dave because um because you know what you were mentioning was was in a product you know that somebody buys online to be able to use in their Garden they might be able to go online
And search it and find it but then when they get it to their home you know we have very strict rules for products here in the United States and and depending on the state that you’re in and one of those things is hopefully for the safety
Of everybody’s use of it and you know like what is it you know propane gas they inject that odor into propane gas so you know that it’s propane your home well and you can blow up if you don’t be careful there’s a lot of chemicals that you’re right naturally they don’t have
An odor but companies inject an odor because if somebody goes into that area or if somebody goes to drink that product or if somebody you know just needs to be aware that there’s a chemical happening in the area that they’re at that if they don’t have an
Odor and they’re applying this to their yard you know somebody could walk back there and pass out or you know I mean it could be bad for their dog or or that’s what you were describing not just acute toxicity that you need to worry about it’s long-term health effects that’s
Just a perfect example of that is uh Roundup I mean Roundup was one of those products where you know everybody it was safe it’s perfectly fine to use and it didn’t it didn’t have an acute toxicity but then everybody ended not everybody but a lot of people ended up with non-
Hodin lymphoma and that could very well happen with a lot of these other products you just really don’t know and so uh it’s important to avoid using these products but when you do you know be safe um but yeah yeah and like you said you guys these these products it
Gives people that multifaceted approach that need to be used with that chemistry and it brings it to the table for them without them having to do all that research and homework and thinking about it it’s just thoughtless you know you just go in you hang up these tags on
Your plant and you know you’re taking care of and I’m not going to say it’s 100% uh effective or 100% perfect but neither is chemistry either so if you’re not working in the life cycle of bug if you’re not thinking about the the stage in which the bug is at um whether
You’re targeting the egg what type of bug you’re uh targeting with what chemistry there’s so many different things to think about there’s no such thing as a silver bullet in any Pest Management program uh and that’s true for chemistry as well and a lot of people that’s what they’re looking for
And that’s what we tried to give them and it’s never going to be perfect but we did we did give them the best the best and closest thing to Silver Bullet as we could by the way tiger uh John says that he did not see the link or the
Discount that you posted uh it’s not yeah we don’t see it up there and I didn’t see it either so so we you promised everyone a discount terrible all right let me go back to work okay John we promis so good yeah now insect 10 was the discount code right that was
The code yeah Tiger’s going to try to post it again meantime we have some questions uh from listeners that we could uh go through um uh John wants to know are there other or companion plants that you recommend that will attract or host the beneficials predator and the
Insects that you’re sending out on your program for Roses do they also work on other plants uh so to start off uh yes there are a multitude of different um plants that you can use the oat wheat like I had mentioned the cter plants dangerous plants but good plants uh very pretty or
Uh ornamental P Peppers also you can also things use things like barriers and deterrents which would be like cat Min basil uh chives garlic pansy and rosemary those will help to deter um deter the the bad insects from coming um so and then uh what was there
Was another part to that question and I the the insects that you send out are they effective for other plants other than just roses oh absolutely they are effective in your vegetable garden if you want to use them in your vegetable garden you want to use them pretty much
Anywhere throughout your garden uh they will work very well for that um you just need to think about the the subscription surface is designed to cover about 500 square fet and so so just keep that in mind when you’re when you’re making those applications that those beneficial
And then Kevin in cellan Idaho has a dumb question right this is our dumb category of the week right we only allow one dumb question per show per show so here we go yeah that’s why I don’t say anything um well I’ll answer the first part for of the question he says what’s
The difference between an heirloom rose and a regular Rose and Heirloom Roses is a a a general class of old garden roses and the company Heirloom Roses that um Randy works for sells all kinds of roses modern roses as well as some older roses so the name of the
Company might be a little bit misleading you know to help remember that you look at something in your house maybe your grandmother your grandfather oh this is a family heirloom you know from the past right yeah right but if that was the name of your house arloom house you
Wouldn’t expect to see only heirloom Furniture you did see some new never mind okay um oh um this is a little bit off but uh Kevin says that he heard that roses are beneficial in growing in Vineyards to be the first alarn First Alert against Milo yeah indicator plant
Right yeah that is that is effectual statement yeah and there are certain varieties of roses that are called indicator roses because they get mildew quickly yeah so if you’ve got it V and we don’t plant those well you know some of them are really nice I don’t know if
Maybe ry’s going to come up with something that works on predatory insect for disease yeah there you go hey um hey Randy um you know you mentioned something earlier about you know it’s it’s not always perfect and you know if you’re going down this path of you know this uh integrated Pest
Management um organic fertilizers for feeding the soil and not just the plants there there’s a great documentary movie that was called like it’s called the biggest little farm and it’s about this farm that takes that path they they do away with all the old standards of farming and they
Introduce animals and pollinators and plants and all kinds of stuff and it’s a great way to show that like it’s not per perfect but it can be better you know what I mean and abolutely and and I think that’s where you’re getting at where meaning you know you’re not going
To get perfect solution and zero thrips on your yard but it’s going to be better than what you’re doing now because of you know everything that could possibly negative happen to it just the use of things and the plant health is actually going to be better down the road so you
Know I think that’s something that people need to understand that you know nothing is going to be perfect but this path is better for the long term so you know I think that’s long term it is absolutely better and the and the one thing that I want to say is that when
You bring these beneficial insects into your garden and you’re eliminating or reducing your insecticide use you are naturally bolstering the uh the native uh insect ecology that’s there so you’re going to have not only the predatory insects that we send you but you’re also going to have the native predatory text
For your area coming in to help out as well yeah and then that’s just going to boost everything again because now like you’re saying the ladybugs the pre man is the other ones that are already there are going to be more populated so and I
I do have to say before uh while it’s on while it’s on the subject is while we’re on the subject is um ladybugs they are captured in the wild and they’re sent to you they’re in freezers they’re sent to you but the problem with them is that we’re actually getting an invasive type
Of uh ladybug which is I believe it’s the Asian ladybug um that’s getting mixed in with those ladybugs that are getting sent out and so they’re being shipped over all over the continental United States they’re actually taking over the native population of ladybugs okay uh so really
Watch out uh ordering ladybugs off the off the internet I I’ve recently found out that uh the two- spotted uh ladybug is being reared um which is really exciting news and I’m really excited about that development um and excited to explore that a little bit further but what you
Would get with reared ladybugs is actually getting the larel stage of that of that ladybug nice yes and the larva state is where they do all the eating so good good information hey Randy um great information heirloomroses.com um to be able to find this program that they’re putting together and also roses and
Other plants are available there um lots of great information that also has a video with Randy in it so thank you for joining us this morning Randy have a great of the weekend good luck on your season and hopefully we’ll talk to you again soon you take care thank you Randy
Thank you so much you guys have a great day you bet perfect okay with that in mind we’re going to take a break for bis talk radio back after these messages bis talk radio Facebook live this is Garden America alrighty we are back from the break and
Again good speaking with uh Randy this morning with uh the beneficial insects the predatory insects and just a better way to control pest in your garden all the way around you know he did mention one thing which which we all know in terms of you know spreading fertilizers
So on and so forth they can develop a resistance over the years months but when you’ve got insects eating other insects killing other insects with that Battleground going out there that war that you see in your backyard there’s no resistance can picture the movie now the Guardians of the Guardians of the garden
Right exactly hey John I got a a question for you regarding this because I grew up the the the taper the the tail end of the chemical push the brown bottle with the skull and crossbones so you know that was a product when when I
Was growing up it was there but by the time I actually started knowing gardening we were moving into this Organics more specific use of pest control for specific bugs and not just broad spectrum insecticides but you you grew up probably with your grandparents and your parents teaching you organic
Farming because those products were not EX IST then you then you got handed Miracle Grow and malathion and all these wonderful Cur alls for for plant problems the growth on the back of his neck exactly and now you’re kind of seeing it come right back to where it
Was when you first started gardening and I mean what do you what do you think about that whole sequence of events what do I think about it yeah I think because I know your thoughts on stuff but yeah I think we the opinions expressed by John magnasco are not necessarily those of garden
America no no things things have come around and uh you know people lived just fine before chemicals and the when you look at chemical fertilizers they were first developed to to um be an added an additional benefit in growing crops but not to replace the organic foods that were being used
And eventually it became to you know the chemical companies thought you know hey we can make money doing this you should only use this yeah and of course anytime you add chemicals or salts anytime you add salts to the soil you kill something that’s alive but you know thinking of
When I started in the garden center you would go to the chemical shelf and there was uh DDT on the Shelf yeah uh lead arsonate uh a lot of really heavy duty things we had it in our garage when I was a kid same thing these brown bottles
Skull and crossbones and all I had to all I had to know as a kid that skull and crossbones not good I I didn’t know what was in there just not good yeah not good that was kind of the international symbol for poison right yeah I think the
Only skull and crossbones that we had in the garden center was uh um what was the tobacco spray black Leaf 40 oh do they still make that no I don’t I I if they do it’s definitely not in California and uh use on the back for was nicotine
Sulfate was the chemical that was used and it was the only one that had the skull and crossbones and it was organic yeah really that’s right on nicotine yeah came from there yeah that’s funny um so anyway that that that’s where that and you know the same
Thing happens with medicines now yes you know people are going towards more natural controls or or natural homeopathic medicines and a lot of them really work and do much better than you know taking a pill so I know that um like anyone Brian you enjoy taking pills
Lots of them yeah I like all kinds of the supplements and stuff and it turns out that you know maybe that stuff’s not good but it’s not bad either well at this stage what the heck right well I I think you know you know your your current situation John is a perfect
Example of of something that a home Gardener okay you know number one you know it’s not not it’s just pure laziness on my part but I never spray for bugs in my yard I just don’t feel like I have enough plants that would maybe die or be super affected that if I
Had aphids on these plants or if I had you know white fly on this plant I’m just like yeah you know it’ll do with it I think I think the biggest thing that I’m concerned about is my orange tree with with scale and and white fly but
Even then I just kind of like like wash it off for the most part I’m okay with it you know but in your situation where you have gopher which is truly killing killing your plants oh yeah if if you don’t solve the problem that’s where you
Step in and you say hey I’ve got to do something you know so if you got aphids if you got scale if you got thrips that are truly killing your plants to the point where they’re they won’t come back you know this year if you don’t treat
Them then yeah you want to be using products and and you you know figure it out but well Gophers that’s true but you know I with 1500 roses at my house if you come and look for apids you I haven’t seen one yet this year yeah and
You know last year you could go in the middle of the summer and there’d be no apids in my yard so you can bring that under control that that’s not just tolerating what’s there it’s just like they’re they’re gone you never see them let’s catch up on some questions um oh
We have questions sorry yeah we do we have a few uh Carla wanted to comment that uh according to the catalog of arloom roses that John and Lise Clemens who were the founders um fell in love with Old garden roses in Europe and helped introduce them into the United States thus the
Name of the company let not quite true I I haven’t read what’s on the website but I knew both John and Louise and they went to Europe and discovered David Austin Roses which were were uh uh breeding old garden roses with modern roses to come up with an old Garden
Shape on really Hardy plants and John was responsible for introducing those into the United States and so it was an heirloom looking Rose but they were actually more modern roses okay so and both really nice people John was u a quick Story the first time I met John Clemens he was
Uh he could be a little difficult to get along with but I usually get along with everybody especially we’re talking plants yeah right but what broke the ice with him was he liked um Bogen via really yeah and you would think up in Oregon why Bogen via so anyway we started talking about
It and he mentioned a company excuse me for a second there’s a cough button right there oh okay I see it it’s okay um so anyway he mentioned a company in Alabama That Grew Bogen via but I said you know one of the things I hate about
That company even though they got a great selection is they changed the names and how do you know what you’re really getting when somebody’s going to change the name of the Bogen via and he looked at me and he goes you mean like I do with roses
Yeah and I didn’t think about it but I said you know now that you mentioned it I really don’t like doing it with roses either but anyway we were good friends after that that’s funny um all right what other questions do we have we got
Uh we got about a minute see if you can squeeze the one question that um is that are we with Rick Rick’s question you gotta scroll back up oh Rick yeah Rick wanted to know if uh kelp and worm castings help fight off insects they they help fight off sucking insects
Right right and the reason is that it increases the cell wall and it’s more difficult for an aphid to get its little uh prascus stuck into the cell wall and suck out the juices and then there are some products out there that we don’t recommend that actually work to thin out
Those cell walls and those plants now become more susceptible yeah well usually those are water soluble chemical type fertilizers it is break time back they grow if you use it’s a miracle that anything been around here okay we’re going to take a break Biz talk radio Facebook live I’m Brian M John basar
Techapella Fox we’re coming back here on Garden America we are back in action the mics are hot ready to go a couple of more segments to go as we continue on your weekend all right so today’s show uploaded on our YouTube channel uh go to our YouTube
Page Garden America radio show to catch anything you might have missed whatever is on your mind and be sure to go to our website Garden america.com you know it’s funny I don’t know if people got this ver with our conversation that we’re having today too that you know when we
Think of bugs we instantly I think usually associate them with pollinators and and different things in the garden that we can see that we can actually you know go out there and look and watch butterflies and bees and flies and that kind of stuff right but you know like
Randy had mentioned there’s a there’s a battle going on in the yard that we can’t see because these bugs are so small right or they’re so well hidden within the environment that they’re the ones doing the battling with The Predator bugs beneficial bugs and it’s that balance that they have in that
Landscape and when you use a product like a broad spectum spectrum insecticide you just kill everything but it’s kind of like a weed the ones that come back quicker are going to be the predatory the the the bugs that are eating your plants because that food
Source is still there where when you get away when you kill the good bugs right they don’t come back because you’ve removed their their food source they’re what they’re going after and so so it’s kind of interesting to look at it from that perspective that you can’t even see
What’s going on really in it’s like all the bacteria and biology that goes on underneath when you dig dig up the dirt y everything going on underneath there but there’s a lot happening sure yeah yeah you don’t when you’re spraying for a particular problem you don’t realize
That it’s not a discriminate spray that it’s indiscriminate it kills good bugs it kills bad bugs yeah um I’m trying trying to think was was it Lauren uh Lauren n Carol Lauren n Carrol that wrote the book uh bugs Thugs and other slugs and like dead snails don’t sleep I
Can’t remember something something like that yeah dead snails leave no Trails yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no but that is good all dead snails leave no TR that is good yeah he started um uh he kind of got into doing things organically yeah very much so yeah yeah and uh I’m just
So you know physically I can’t spray now cuz I’ve got three and a half acres right right and and one of the one of the weed infestations I have is castor beans so I feel a little bit better now knowing that they’re good for something yeah
Exactly are we caught up uh where are we question wise well we had a lot of comments okay and uh I I guess we could read some of those um uh Jan up and Brentwood says that uh she plants a lot of milkweed to attract beneficial
Insects to her roses yeah and uh and Carla had asked whether it was tropical or native or both and and Jan mentioned that the native milk weeds were the best for her yeah yeah I mean just any any you know milked I mean mix them mix them
Up so you can get the best of both worlds there was a uh you know things go in Cycles where they’re really popular and everybody wants them wasn’t it a year last year or the year before everybody wanted milk we everybody still does they still do yep still a a huge
Plant uh for the nursery and the garden centers and do you have both tropical and Native we we do we do have both tropical and Native yeah uh Kevin says that when he had uh really bad infestation of white flies on the Citrus and hibiscus I think that was when Kevin
Lived down here it would have been giant white fly yes uh before they brought in the predatory insect he said he would just use a power washer to go under the leaves and he said it worked really well yeah and that’s the nice thing too I mean with that Hib hibiscus they they
Love getting a good wash down anyway they’re tropical plants they love the water you can’t go wrong that you know they they love that where you know sometimes you know you don’t wash down your plants because they get disease or whatever but hibiscus love it uh Rick wants to know when you should
Spray fruit trees and what you should use um you know what go to the um uh the UC Pest Management uh website UC Davis has got a Pest Management uh website and if you go there you can look up whatever plant you want like you could look up apple trees and it’ll tell
You the time of year to spray what to spray for and things you have to watch out for okay um also um our friend Ed livo has really good videos that he’s put together about fruit tree management and care and stuff like that so and and and I like his videos because they’re
Really uh be you know just information really good stuff and Ed love livo is a great source if you’re talking fruit trees you know if he says something you know there’s there’s some education behind it’s probably the gospel the gospel of bed livo so so that’s another
Good source for um Fruit Tree Care Al Lisa says uh or is wants know our thoughts on neem oil does that come from a tree in Africa neem oil I don’t know if it’s from Africa I do know they have them in India okay it’s from the neem tree the
Neem tree yeah yeah okay um you know again I I just don’t spray anything uh if you have to spray for a particular reason neem is an organic IC spray but again if you’re spraying with oils you’re going to kill everything that you hit everything it hits beneficial as
Well as yeah so I think that people have to understand what neem oil is it’s it suffocates right right so it like you’re saying it’s I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily the neem the neem is an organic attribute of that oil right but in theory all you’re doing is you’re
Applying an oil to the plant which you’re hoping is going to coat this bug and it’s a biodegradable oil rather than a petroleum pum oil which is going to then suffocate that bug so whether you put it on an apid or a lace Wing or you know anything else it’s going to
Suffocate it it doesn’t like oh look it there’s an lace Wing I’m not going to hit that guy you know um and so you’re just suffocating all the bugs on there so it does work for you know that problem but um like you’re saying it’s it’s just because it’s organic doesn’t
Mean it’s necessarily better non-descript or right arsenic is organic yeah what did you just say it was the N the nicotine oh yeah nicotine sulfate right tobacco um there is another benefit of neem though is that it does control some disease right like mildew and stuff like that yeah so I don’t know
I I just live with I was to say I live with live with disease but that’s actually what people die with but but like I say it’s it’s it’s when you get to a point where you’re going to actually lose plants or lose something that you’re like hey step in solve the
Problem that’s okay but if you can go as just because you know Eugenia Hedges you know they have Sid in them right and they get little bumps on the F and the the whole hedge the whole plant is covered with these little bumps and from
Afar you don’t care you just see a hedge whatever when you get close you see those little bumps and people go I don’t want to see them it’s like well don’t get so close and and there’s really nothing you could do like they’re always there like even the most you know systemic
Insecticides that they sell will solve the problem but then you have to reapply because it’s going to come back and like like you say John tries not to spray I’m the same way you are too there’s so much you can live with until you get to that
Peak where now I’ve got to step in and do something yeah whereas some people react right away and they’re a little too you know anxious and have a lot of anxiety they think they think that just because they see aphids on their rose that Rose is going to die and right
That’s just not the case yeah I um I’m I’m trying to think uh sometimes there’s certain times of the Season you know one of the things we should probably point out is that right now we’re discussing our own experiences in Southern California that’s true yes yes and there’s other parts of the
Country that have heavy disease pressure yeah and you know sometimes or bug pressure right and sometimes it’s um sometimes it’s so bad there’s nothing you can do like with the cicas that are I was going to say you’re the newsletter article that you just put out I mean
Good luck to those people yeah you you just got to live we’ll pray for you and you know what uh my son Joe lives in Indiana and that’s the state that’s going to have the double whamm double whammy you know I mean I think that’d be interesting to see it’s only like every
20 some years that that occurred wasn’t that part of your theory behind was it the Walnut too the Walnut disappearing there was some tree Chestnut oh the Chestnut and like you’re like passenger pigeons oh oh yeah yeah that’s what it was passenger prison Chestnut yeah but I
Mean like maybe the cicas came through and just killed everything I don’t think the adult cicas do anything do they I don’t know I don’t I don’t I don’t know them because we don’t deal with them here well don’t they I think they live for just a couple
Weeks and they’re kind of busy breeding during that time okay but they don’t actually decimate anything I don’t think they do just annoying I mean they’re so bad that you can you have to sweep them up yeah you know and trash them completely eating all the leaves off of
Trees or anything like that yeah I think that’s more Locus yeah okay so na we’re getting biblical here we’re going to take a break we have one more segment uh coming up still plenty of time for your questions your comments as we continue so again Garden America we continue
Brian M John beg Nesco tiger PX a break for our friends on bis talk radio stay with us back with our final segment as we continue on your weekend or maybe you’re watching or listening to the show at some other time we appreciate that as
Well uh okay this is it guys uh last segment and some comments you know I was just getting warmed up too you’re just getting warmed this is when you shine that’s what happens when you’re older it takes a while to get that’s why you want to start the show at 10:00 Pacific time
I get it uh Carla wants to know if we want an update on new yes we would like one Carla nuos was the world premier Growers of uh aelas and Chamas and they’re going away because like all Nursery men they retire they retire and the kids say I’m not doing
That yeah this is way hard to do yeah okay cicas have modified mouth parts to feed on liquids rather than solid material so the larva Su juices from the plant roots because they’re in the ground right but the adults suck fluids from Woody shrubs and trees so they’ll
Attach to the bark or the stem of trees and then they’ll suck so probably not decimate you know like a like we’re talking about like a loc Locust where they decimate but you know I mean a lot of them could probably do some
Damage so a double I if I was a cic I’d go after maple trees oh they delicious they get the maple syrup they’re all just just sucking on the maple tree all just falling off all happy fat uh Rick wants to know if plants that are putting
On New Growth are more susceptible to bugs again as we were referring to if you’re using chemical liquid fertilizers the plants are going to put on right a fast growth a fluorescent light show right that it you know that’s saying you know come and eat me I’m soft
And succulent but that new growth is going to be tougher and more resistant to Insects if it’s growing naturally yeah so if you’re using the Organics in the soil um that’s the best thing to do yeah but no matter what when you see new growth that is where usually the pests
Are because like John mentioned that’s where the newest softest foliage is where pest can get in there you don’t see it on your old old leathery leaves anymore bugs can’t get into there uh Jan says that she has a no spray garden and she said that it attracts beneficial Birds also Jan the
Rose Gardener yep yeah and uh she has say she has feebies that eat all types of insects and little green birds that she calls cleaner birds that take the scale off her citrus trees I need one of those they’re all doing the work yeah those remind me that reminds me of that
What’s that fish and your fish tank that just goes on the walls the pamus plco yeah yeah he’s big I’m like I need one of those for the scale on my Citrus right he just goes and sucks everything up and now I’ve got snails in there
They’re doing you need a lot of rain for them to survive on your citrus exactly I I don’t know how my Citrus Tre would survive if it was underwater um I was going to mention to Jan that she should sign up for that uh program with their LOM roses because
They’re going to be sending out the things that the birds aren’t going to take care of you know the thrips that are are in the pedals and to have those out there to add to what she’s got going would be a great addition um Lyla says that she heard
That Alo juice sprayed on Plants will repel pests is that true or false aloe juice so um aloe the liquid in the aloe I’ve never heard that I’ve heard it with garlic I I know you know garlic can be a repellent you you can take an Alo plant break it
In half and rub it on a soore and it helps to heal Burn yeah burn right exactly yeah not sure I’ve told you that story when my son was really little he learned to walk at N9 months old and um the doctor warned us one time he said
You know he’s nine months and he’s walking but he’s still nine months don’t treat him like he’s a year old and he when we first moved to California my wife had put a pot of hot tea on the table and he pulled on the tablecloth
And it went all over his shoulder so we of course rushed him to the hospital and on the way I stopped by the nursery I was working at cuz I knew there was an aloe plant MH um out in front of the nursery and I I got the aloe and we
Rubbed it on them all the way there and he stopped crying you know he was screaming up kind cool feeling it’s a yeah yeah so we get to the hospital and the doctors and the nurses well the nurses more so were yelling at us never put anything on us burn except ice and
We’re saying you know what made us feel bad you’re such terrible par parents you should never have put this you should never have hot tea on the table you put Alo on your K walking at 9 months what’s wrong with you so the doctor came in and
He goes you know he’s got second and third degree burns he’s going to have scarring you know he said you should never have put this on and and so they wiped it all off and now he’s screaming again and they put the ice on but we get home and I put
More aloe on because it did make him feel better and we took him back to the doctor the following week the doctor wanted to see him and there were no signs of burns at all it was 100% taken care of and doctor was surprised didn’t know what it was he said it certainly
Wasn’t the L I’ll never do that yeah you know what this goes back to if they didn’t read it in a medical book in college it doesn’t exist or it can’t happen or it can’t work you know it’s there there a lot of doctors that don’t like that they’re just uh very stubborn
Yeah you know and especially back in the good old days that John’s referring to kind of like stubborn radio people absolutely by a minute and a half guys Brian do you know Ryan he says wants to know if we do our shows on Saturdays uh out in the public yeah we’re going to
Try to I’m talking to John Clemens about doing the one up at the botanical gardens we’re we’re trying to go public um the only hangup is John’s police record yeah um that’s true we got that shouldn’t be a problem only certain counties we can do it in we can get like
A twoh hour like fur kind of a thing for him yeah or three hours mean you know yeah Ryan wants his uh his mother to be able to see us so where where do they live in San Diego yeah I think they’re in San Diego somewh
Okay yeah we’ll be posting about the uh Botanical Garden one soon Kevin wants to know what the topic for next week’s show is wants to remind us it’s the day before Easter you talk about Resurrection plan exactly Resurrection plants that’s good very good guys uh I don’t have that one yet
So we we’ll see uh Carla her update on newo says that they’re in full operation right now with no sign of closing she said uh school’s trying to buy the property um but she says they’re going to be there at least one year we got to
Go guys we got to stay on time stay dry everyone stay safe John we got your last comment yes we could probably something on that as well I don’t think it’s very controversial no medicinal Gard sure you can do that hey thank you so much for
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