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Part One: The Moonies Are So Much Worse Than You Could Possibly Imagine | BEHIND THE BASTARDS

Mia Wong is joined by Robert Evans to discuss the many crimes of Reverend Sun Myung Moon and his family.

Original Air Date: March 8, 2022

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What do you what do you what do you what do you what do you it’s what what is it it’s behind the bastards that’s what it is so what do you got what are you complaining about come on come on inside behind the bastards town and hear about

Bad people I’m Robert Evans this is my podcast how how did this become a town what are you doing it’s always been a town what are you doing always to what are you doing it’s like uh you know like Waco you know a town like I knew it

Safe little town where the ATF never Rambles by all right well I feel like that’s all the work I should do today Sophie do you have any way for me to not do anything but us to have a show this week you any ideas I I don’t have a way

For you to not do anything but uh I I do trust Dan put in a door opening sound effect here no oh my gosh Chris hello it’s me I’m here I’m here to make sure you don’t have to do any work by cing the podcast once again thank God

Yeah cuz let me tell you I’m lazy all right let’s get started Robert how do you what are we going to learn about today how do you feel about the Thompson submachine gun oh my gosh of of the submachine guns it’s a pretty good one

If I was going to fire into a bunch of gangsters at close range in like a parking garage or if I was going to shoot into a bunch of Nazis in a trench at close range Thompson submachine gun would be high up on my list of things to

Do that with yeah unfortunately you can’t make the Thompson submachine gun really in in the US anymore but there’s a semi-automatic variant you can yeah the symbiotic mic variant is the the rights to produce this is owned by a company called car arms they sure are

Yeah car they make um make a lot of Lady branded guns like little pink carry guns and stuff too I didn’t realize they were the ones who owned the only uh Thompson submachine gun semi and they they also so they they they they famously also made a gun called The Car MK4

Semi-automatic Pocket Rocket which I’m mostly talking about because I the pocket rocket just seems like an incredible name for a gun to me yeah you know this is this is a weapon and you know they they they make this pivot in the 9s when you start seeing some gun

Control regulations and one of the things they do is they make this gun and it becomes you know it’s it’s a it’s a Compact 9mm handgun well the MK 40 is a 40 mm hand 40 Smith and Wesson is it okay this is this is this is where this

Is where me not knowing I think maybe there are other versions but yeah the one I’m looking at right now is a is a 40 which would make sense 40 Smith and Wesson is a large caliber for such a small gun cuz it’s a tiny little piece

They have ankle holers for it well the the the NYPD early 200000 NYPD just like loves this gun this this this is their favorite gun uh the the police department like allows them to use it on duty and they they call the K mk40 the Mooney gun because it was designed by

One Justin Moon the son of one Reverend Sun young Moon and that is who we’re talking about today Sun young Moon and his many many many many and I cannot emphasize enough he has like 20 of them sons and also daughters great and one of them’s making

What I’m guessing is a really high caliber handgun for scared middle class moms who don’t want to carry something heavy but want to be able to shoot what they imagin to be a 6 and 1/2t Tall mugger uh with a big it’s great and uh

We’re we’re we are in in in the next part of this episode we are going to find out a lot more about the guy who makes this gun and it is who who owns this company right now and it is not good it is very bad [ __ ] dope and

Yeah I just looked it up those of you at home uh if you’re finding I it certainly seems like all of the semi-automatic uh uh Thompson submachine guns I’m able to find right now are made by Auto ordinance uh which uh was bought out in 1999 by Salo Enterprises Inc which is

The parent company of car arms welcome welcome to another theme of this episode which is there are approximately 1 trillion front organizations and uh suborganizations yeah and they they are founded by a man named s Yong Moon who was born on January 6th 1920 and uh hold

The date January 6th in your mind we will be coming back to that next episode I’ve never heard of anything important happening on January 6th that’s that’s bizarre Chris now now you freaked me out was it’s it’s the messiah’s birthday this is this is the day Mah it’s like it

Would be like something significant happening on the day after September 10th I just can’t I just can’t get it in my head but okay so put put a put put a pin in this this thought right now it is 1920 it is uh okay I I apologize to the

Korean people for what I’m about to do to their language um pyam PTO he’s born in a village yeah a small village in what is now North Korea um and this it’s it’s okay Chris as angry as the Koreans are I don’t think their yelling will get louder than the yelling

Of English people pissed that I can never get any of their street names the thing the problem is though that I I have respect for the Korean people I have no respect for the anglos and the anglos can uh find me on Twitter at I write okay mhm yep that’s exactly your

Twitter account and I will explain how it should be pronounced like Hester but anyway continue Chris now Moon Moon is from a pretty middle class family in this this sort of rural farming Village and you know but what middle class means is that uh he doesn’t starve very much

But this is you know this is still a terrible place to grow up because you know 1920 Korea and throughout his childhood uh this place is occupied by Japan people are being like enslaved and dragged off to go fight in the wars there’s there’s just there’s this Mass

Campaign to forceone to speak Japanese so on and so forth so it’s it’s not it’s not a great place to grow up and yeah it’s it’s a rough time to to be in Korea it’s pretty bad now um moon is Moon is a weird kid uh he’s you know he he’s incredibly

Stubborn and I’m I’m just going to read how he describes himself in his book as a peace loving Global citizen when I was a child I had the nickname day crier I earned this nickname because once I started to cry I wouldn’t stop for the entire day when I

Cried it was so loud that people would think something terrible had happened people sleeping in bed would come out to see what was going on also I didn’t just cry sitting still I would jump around the room injuring myself and creating an uproar sometimes I would bleed I had

This intense personality even when I was young so this is this is a weird kid so definitely like some parents who are pretty sleep deprived I think we can and and I think you know one of the sort of the things with this early childhood is that it’s very hard to find information

That isn’t from the church and and I think part of why he’s writing this is that a lot of his sort of early history has been sort of propagandized to sort of fall in line with with church doctrine and I think this is one of those things although it’s also just

Like the fact that he’s calling himself day crier it’s it’s very weird but you know one one of the sort of church sacraments of of the unification Church he’s going to found in a little bit is you know crying during prayer but and you can see this sort of like he’s he’s

Already like like he’s he’s projecting him sort of himself back like into the story and you know part of part of the other like how how this plays out is that when when he’s 10 years old his family conver converts to Presbyterian and they are and what had they been

Before I I couldn’t find any records of it I my my guess is they were like they were doing some kind of of like local Korean religion because there’s a lot of yeah I don’t know much about that but not Christian probably as best I can tell not Christo though there there’s

Not really records of it but when they convert to Christianity they like they they they they go hard this family is very religious moon is incredibly religious and 6 years later on Eastern morning Moon claims that Jesus showed up to have a chat with him now well that’s nice

Jesus Jesus tells him that uh Jesus had in fact failed to save Humanity because people didn’t believe in him and that Moon had to go finish the work that Jesus started wow it’s like a reverse Luke Skywalker it’s it’s pretty wild and you know unlike Luke moon is like no

Like no I will not do this like this is no and so Jesus spends a significant amount of time just like wearing him down over for like the course of days and then wow that’s that’s that’s quite an ego when you’re like yeah Jesus wanted me for this thing but like you

Know my I had work was really heavy this week and like I hadn’t been able to get to the gym so I didn’t want to put that off anymore and like wow cool wow what what a what an in demand dude pretty impressive and you know and there’s some

Question here as to like whether this is something that mood believ when he was 16 or if he’s created it later and I’m not really sure my my guess is is that he he’s back projecting this because he stays in the Presbyterian Church for like another decade even though Jesus

Has showed up to him and like proclaimed him the Messiah um what what we do know is that Moon went to Soul to study electrical engineering where he and his followers claimed that he joins the Korean independence movement and gets arrested for it and this is another one

Of those things where like almost every Source will repeat it but they’re all going off of his church so it’s sort of unclear I I will say though moon is very very good at getting people pissed off at him and getting arrested so there it is entirely possible he managed to do

This because he’s going to get arrested like six more times and you know so so after after this he he spent some time in college in Japan during the war and while while he’s doing this he decides he doesn’t want geological engineering he wants to become a missionary but he

Runs into Ray roadblock which is that the Presbyterian Church expels him for heresy in 1946 because you know he’s going around claiming that he’s the Messiah which is and man it it’s not the easiest thing to get kicked out of the Presbyterian Church for Herod like one

Of the harder churches to be heretical against I would I would suggest based on my knowledge of presbyterianism it’s I me I will say the the not a lot of heresy goes on within the Presbyterian Church I will say the I think the Korean branch is like slightly like Korean

Korean like presbyterianism I think is is somewhat more intense than like American presbyterianism but like yeah it it’s you know you you you have to go around claiming that you are the Messiah basically for them to be like I mean yeah and if you are if your whole

Thing is Jesus some guy being like Oh yeah that’s me basically is going to folks might have an issue with that I get it I get it you know I I I I understand the concerns they have okay so and he he he makes a decision that

Is somewhat baffling to me which is okay so he decides he’s he’s going to you know he’s he decides he’s going to go find his own church but in order to do this he goes to pongyang North Korea with which is by this point under communist control and is that easier

Then I’m guessing it’s easier cuz like now you would have to like smuggle yourself right you would have to break a number of laws in both countries to get in go there I mean this is like right after the war everything sort of chaos it’s much easier than it’s going to be

But you know he he does this and but also still probably not like a normal decision and the Communists immediately look at this like weird Christian cult preacher who shows up and they immediately go Oh this guy’s a South Korean spy and according to Moon they

Like torture him and leave him for dead in in the prison yard now the funny part about this is that this is the only part of Moon’s entire career which he is not a South Korean spy oh so they suspect him for being a spy for the only period of time where yeah

That’s fun fun it’s sort of amazing and you know and yeah he this is another thing so he he claims that he’s tortured in prison like a lot and it’s possible I don’t know I mean North Korean prisons are not great but he yeah South Korean ones probably aren’t either then at that

Point yeah yeah you know about half of the story is about how just like an absolute like horrifying basket Kiss military dictatorship South Korea is for like this entire period yeah for a lot for a decent chunk of the postwar period you’re doing better if you’re up north

Than you are down south now so so he so you know he his story about this is that like his followers like come get him and like nurse him back to health and I have no idea if that’s true what what I do know is that like 2 years later he gets

Arrested again for quote advocating chaos in society and get sent to a North Korean prison camp oh that is a dope thing to get arrested for that is that is a sick thing to get arrested for man I would brag about that [ __ ] rap sheet that’s the coolest thing you can

You can do time for it’s pretty sweet I I will say the person he gets sent you like sucks like they’re they’re feeling fertilizer bags but like you know they’re they’re they’re they’re handling a bunch of just like raw ammonium nitrate and that that that’s a bad time

Um but luckily instead of serving out his 5 years he’s bailed out when UN forces took control of the prisent in 1950 during the Korean War and so they release him and he flees on foot with some of his followers to psan ahead of the Communist Advance

1951 and this is where in a tiny Shack he begins he begins to write the well okay sorry I I I should make this clear okay he begins to write Divine principle there is another book called The Divine principle which is a separate thing they

Are not the same thing uh this is a source of enormous confusion now Divine principle is it’s called the Bible of the unification Church uh it’s slightly more complicated than that I mean so the unification Church which which is founding in this period it’s like they have the regular Bible and they have

Their own interpretations of it and then they have Divine principle which is the thing that he wrote that’s like their like higher holy text but then there’s also a bunch of other holy texts but this is this is sort of the main one he starts writing it and there there is an

Amazing story about the writing of this from uh uh a later Church preacher named Kevin McCarthy even God said no to Father three times when he presented the Divine principle father told God [ __ ] God knew he was right okay wow so this this guy is this

Is something new you know I’ve done a lot of people who talked to God or Jesus this is the first cult leader I’ve heard of who’s having like a back and forth where he’s like given as good as he’s getting he’s like wait a no that doesn’t make any

Sense you [ __ ] crazy no sir no no that’s not how this is going to work yeah he is just he’s basically ordering God around he’s ordering God around because like look we stand an employee who’s who’s not afraid to talk back to management you know this is this is

Finally humans are unionizing against God it’s it’s incredible um and and you know so in 1954 he he was able to get to soul and he starts this new church which is called the Holy Spirit Association for the unification of world Christianity and this is this is what’s

Known today as unification church or uh it’s the cult called the Moonies now what’s interesting about this church though is in the 1950s it is a very different cult than it is in in in the 60s or 7s and the way it’s different is that there’s a bunch of extremely weird

Sex rituals where moon has these like origies to like purify the women in the cult because they’re like like the the he has this whole sort of theological thing about Sin that we’ll get into a second but but basically his thing is like well cuz you have Sin from Eve and

Demons and you can only be purified by like having sex with me and mo Moon starts forcing uh you know people to to do this and one of these people is named Annie Troy who joins the cult in the 1950s now Moon starts to force her to

Join these rituals when she is 17 and uh oh boy is burying 15 to 17 year olds a huge theme of this episode it’s not great oh boy yeah big big pedophiles now Andy got pregnant from from Moon’s abuse but the the second most important member of Moon’s

Operation a guy named bohi Pac who is a colonel well I think at this point he’s a lieutenant colonel but he’s going to become the colonel in the Korean army uh covers up the pregnancy and then literally like once Annie has the kid uh bipo literally steals the baby from her

Arms and then uh raises the child as his own passing it off as like his own child because they don’t want it you know they don’t want to get out that Moon you know had this kid so they he’s he’s doing a little bit of an elron hover there he’s

Hovering a bit that’s good that’s good now Annie describes how bip’s wife like brings her some seaweed soup after again they steal her baby and his wife just like yeah here’s some soup and any you know well it’s better than not giving her soup and stealing her baby look if

You like on the moral chart of the universe stealing baby no soup worse than stealing baby but soup it’s still pretty bad and and she well yeah I mean it’s stealing a baby but um and and’s description of it was that she couldn’t eat it and she quote she said I just sat

There crying with my tears falling in the pot now Annie yeah that’s the downside of soup as a gift after a baby theft now Annie follows Pac to the us to stay near her son Sam and when Sam is 13 Annie tells him the truth that you know

Sam is actually Annie and Moon’s son and the moon family like does not take this well uh Moon’s oldest son Steve who well okay so oldest legitimates on Steve we’re going to be talking a lot about later uh points a gun at Sam and threatens to rape and kill Annie so oh

Yeah this is going great um yeah that Steve is a uh real real bad guy we will get into more of his [ __ ] later because it’s bad and you know and the the the the sort of consequence of this for the Moon Cult is that Moon decides to just retool

It because this whole sex cult thing is not working and it’s not working because you know okay well there’s all these kids now that you know you have to have your Lieutenant steal from the mother like the arms of the mother and stuff it’s like okay so this this is bad for

Mo yeah that’s not great where do you get the gun is it easy in South Korea to get a gun well I so but but this is this is later on and by by this point uh they’re they’re in the US yeah and I will say though like Moon’s people like

They have a we’ll get into this more in a second but they have a lot of correct connections with the Korean army like bipac is in the Army so they they have like a a much easier time getting weapons than like a normal person would just because they’re so heavily

Connected to the Army yeah that’s not great so so a major part of this Cults belief is that uh Jesus had been sent by God to create a new Adam and Eve family and so moon sets out to find a uh quote True Mother to finish what Jesus

Started and he finds that set True Mother after an exhaustive search by his followers in the form of the 17-year-old daughter of his cook HW Jan oops that’s not great immediately marries and and keep in mind mood is m is 40 when he’s marrying the 17-year-old yeah it’s yeah

Yeah and and this is the yeah it’s it’s also not great that my first thought when you said 17 was like well that is on the older side for cers yeah so at this point uh this this is where the unification Church stops being the sort of weird sex cult thing

That it was before it starts looking like the modern unification church and this is when Moon conducts the first of the mass wedding ceremonies that the church becomes famous for in which moon you know moon will just marry off sometimes thousands of couples how many folks are there in this this cult at

This time we have any idea like track especially especially in the early period I I think in 1960 there’s like a few thousands Al so it’s that the numbers of this are going to be extremely elusive all the time um um partially just because like so it’s

Biggest branches are going to be in Japan and the numbers on that is no one has any idea basically so yeah this is a this is a constant source of contention it’s like how many people are in it a little bit of a black box gotcha now it’s this wedding

Ceremony the these sort of mass weddings that they’re doing are very weird um and to to get into why they’re so weird uh we need to talk a bit about like what the unification Church actually believes now the the church is a it it’s it’s a mixture of essentially like it’s it’s

It’s it’s mostly based on on Christianity but it has this sort of mixture of Buddhists like Confucian doist and also sort of like local like shamanic uh Korean religious Traditions that are that are all sort of mixed into it and the the the the main difference from Christianity other than you know

Jesus being betrayed and not completing God’s plan is that they believe that Eve cheated on Adam with Lucifer before they could be married and that this is what the story of the Fall is and it’s it’s it’s it’s really funny too because they have these weird they have these weird

Interpretations of the Bible well where they’ll say things like okay they they’ll do this like hyper scientific literalism well they’ll be like okay so it it it is in fact impossible for uh the Garden of Eden story to have happened because snakes can’t talk and they’re like so clearly this is a

Metaphor right cuz the snake can’t talk oh wow that’s that’s an interesting line to draw like well yeah there’s a god with angels who’s IAL powers and and there’s a Holy Ghost and stuff but like talking snakes come on it’s an incredible L to have it’s like believing

Star Wars is a documentary except for when you see a rki and you’re like well that that couldn’t happen a big hairy man yeah it’s pretty incredible um and now one one of the sort of one of the sort of consequences of this story about

The fall is that you know so the the the the the fall is is basically about like having sex before marriage and you know the consequence this that like humans all now live outside of God’s law and live in the quote unprincipled realm where they serve Satan and this gives

The church a incredible laser-like focus on on the traditional family and defeating what moon calls free sex or sex outside of marriage and it it’s it’s weird it’s a weirdly straight laced cult especially if for something that like literally started as a sex cult it turns into this thing where there’s no drugs

There’s no sex there’s no alcohol except there there’s one exception to this which is the church has a Sac that you drink at like weddings in some events that’s it’s a bunch of alcohol mixed together and it may or may not what I don’t know see this okay so

This there there’s a whole debate about this because this this thing might have Moon’s blood in it and yeah so the actual composition of this is is a secret uh like high level remembers of the church don’t actually know whether or not there’s blood in it like they

They have different opinions and like sometimes so contradict each other moon has both said that it literally is his blood and then also that there’s not his blood in it so there so there’s a whole running debate what is in this that’s rad you know what that critical support that’s cool

That’s among the cult leader flexes I’ve come across that’s one of the better ones so yeah we I’m not going to tell you if you’re drinking my blood you might be we’ve got what’s important is you drink whatever I tell you to that’s what’s critical so so so yeah we we we

We have schro we have schinger vampirism but the other thing about this is that this this is a very conservative sort of Christian cult but there’s also this like new Edge thing to it a new age like sort of edge to it and and you know for

For example they call God’s existence in the universe the universe the prime Universal force and I’m I’m going to read a passage from uh the Divine principles not to be confused with Divine principle these are two separate things uh the moodies will get extremely mad if you confuse them even though they

Have basically the okay so in in in this Golden Age the highly Advanced uh scientific achievement of the oxident will will serve to make the eternal life of the new world convenient and pleasant and the highly Advanced religious and metaphysical achievement of the Orient will provide the philosophy of the new

Age thus the new age will see Perfect Harmony between the cultures of east and west the one unified world will be fulfilled horizontally between the ocient and the Orient and also vertically between the spiritual and physical worlds in this unified world all nations will live in harmonious

Association with all others and share a common religious philosophy under God’s direct guidance this new age will no longer be regarded as the Christian era instead it will be known as The Cosmic ERA with the adoption of a cosmic calendar okay and you know this yeah but I I think this is

This is you know it like this is like one of Moon’s Strokes of Genius because it lets him play both sides of the religious aisle for you know for when they’re trying to convert Christians they play up the sort of Christian Family Value side and this lets them get

In with the sort of the Christian the the sort of Christian Family Values right um when they’re dealing with hippies they play out the sort of new Agy stuff it’s it’s genius it’s it’s this they they they’ve synthesized sort of by accident but they they’ve synthesized basically this this

All of the sort of political and cultural trends of like the 60s all the way through the 80s and yeah the other sort of important aspect of this faith is that everyone is born with like Sin from a bunch of sources and I mean there’s there there’s a lot of different

Like things that give you sin um one of which is like you know you have Eve sin and so in order to get rid of Eve sin for you know like doing the fall uh during your wedding ceremony the wife and the groom take terms like beating each other with

A giant stick which what what is this what kind of wood is the stick I don’t know it’s just a stick and it’s like it’s just it’s just a stick stick yeah it’s it’s kind I think it’s kind of baseball Bates great they beat each other with

This and Robert do you know who else will be will beat you with a baseball bat um I mean the Texas State Juvenile Justice System yeah we that they could sponsor us that that’s a thing that might happen yeah yeah that could happen fingers crossed God willing you know if

Christ is with us as he is with Reverend Moon that will happen and yeah we we will have products and services eternally Amen yeahoo we’re back people are getting whacked by sin sticks we’ve been a bad influence on honestly I most of the weddings I’ve been to would have been improved if the bride and groom had to hit each other with a bat I’m I’m just going to say it that would make

Most weddings better for the spectators at least what no especially you can hit the priest too yeah unfortunately you don’t get to do that just it’s it’s it’s just it’s just you hit your wife and your wife hits you oh well yeah and and and unfortunately it gets the the S

Stuff gets less fun from here because you also have to pay uh like judas’s sin which means that in order to get married you have to pay $120 to the church because that’s uh you have to you have to you have to repay 30f fold uh judas’s sin of the 30

Coins are you are you kidding me are you kidding me that’s that’s what makes it okay that’s what God is like I’m so pissed about this thing that I set up an engineered and knew was going to happen centuries before I ever did it I’m so

Angry about it that you got to pay me to be fair uh so the their their version in in in their version of the Judas betrayal uh God’s plan is not for Jesus to die God’s plan is for Jesus to like found a family and then what happens

Inste is that he gets betrayed and that that that that’s the origin of of like that sin so it makes slightly more sense you but that makes more sense that does make more sense on you sense is that the the the $120 price it’s also 120 yen it’s also

Like it’s it’s it’s just 120 of whatever the denomination of currency is yeah whatever currency converting it from like gold like gold Roman gold coins it’s like it’s it’s great well yeah it was 30 pieces of like silver or was it gold yeah cuz I’m going to guess 30

Silver coins whatever size they were back then is probably like a couple Grand today like I always had the feeling in the Bible that like that wasn’t nothing you know that was that was like a pretty good pretty good pay for giving Jesus up yeah but so you know

You have so you have that in and and there there’s there’s also others in so there there there there’s demonic influence in your in your like historical bloodline right and you know what that they’re not far off uh according to a random Wikipedia page on 30 pieces of silver depending on you

Know the size of coin and the value the type of of silver and whatnot that went into it approximately $91 to $441 well you’re you’re you’re not paying for it 30 fold then though oh someone else said 90 and 3,000 I don’t think anyone knows Chris I don’t think

Anybody has any idea how much yeah okay please continue so you you also have this demonic sin and and with the Demonic sin you have to pay the you have to pay the church uh $1,400 per generation of your family to purge the bloodline from sin that’s it’s nice that

They went with a flat rate like some families like I’m Italian my family has a lot you go back a couple of generations it’s way more s than the present Generations especially British people what deal the British are getting if your [ __ ] Grandpa was with the East India Company or whatever you’re like

Holy [ __ ] 1400 bucks ain’t bad you know the funny you joke about this one of the things that they do is like they they get Japanese women to like uh like pay like pay pay the church like enormous amounts of indulgences as like a like payment for the comfort women in Korea

So like they they’re legitimately doing this oh that’s that’s messed I mean yeah that’s a really complicated kind of horrible too like you really have to sit down and think out the permutations of of how that’s a bad thing it’s it’s it’s it’s worse than it even sounds now for

Reasons that we will get into in a bit um yeah boy I don’t like that very much and so the more you look at this the more the church starts to look like a pyramid scheme right because in in order to get married you have to be part of

The church for 3 years convert three people to join the church pay them money and then moon or like later originally it’s just mood will pick who you marry but later on like there’s like there’s like church committees that will like select you’re going to marry and you

Know you see how this process works right in order to get married you have to bring more people into the church and then in order to you know so that’s the first process you bring in your new marks and then your new marks start paying the church so you you what what

You have in order to to get you know the the the whole thing of this the church’s whole ideology is you you have to get married and that like if if if you’re not married you can’t see the kingdom of God and you can’t have sex so this whole

Cult is designed as a sort of pyramid scheme to like just bring bring more people in and pay them more money and so you know that’s one way they bring people in the the other way way is through you know sort of like classic cult recruitment stuff so they they have

Hundreds of front groups and you know they’ll have like a farm and they’ll be like hey come to this Farm I have it’ll be a chill time and so you know they they do these things where they make everyone chant constantly and they constantly move everyone back and forth

Between activities and suddenly there’s just like enormous pressure to conform and you know when you try to leave they’ll be like oh well we don’t have any buses that can take you back to the city right now so it’s really inconvenient for us when you stay for

Like a couple more days and they you know they they sort they times like so they the way it usually works is they they’ll assign like a member of the cult that’s like your person and they follow you around all the time and you like become friends with them yeah that’s a

Pretty common kind of thing and then when you try to leave like your friend like emotionally blackmails you into stay into staying and yep more more of the more of the hits they’re playing the hits now the old the best the top 40 of being C this is pretty classic cult

Stuff but the scale the scale here is incredible now Reverend moon or or father father Moon as they call him uh claims to be the literal Messiah bringing about heaven on Earth and he is trying to take over the world like that that is the goal of the cult and it’s

It’s what moon and he’s very consistent about this it is what moon and the all of his organizations are dedicated to him taking over the world the the goal is to crush communism uh reunify North uh reunify Korea with moon as its ruler and then a after he’s defeated communism

And crushed North Korea and you know there’s there’s one Korea uh the US will like fall into in subservience in like in deference to the superior Korean States and then they will take over the rest of the world that that seems optimistic I’m going to be honest uh that that seems

Optimistic I he was never close to doing this but he he gets much closer to this than like anyone should ever be able to do to having the United States bow to Korea’s sovereignty yes this he gets closer to this than anyone ever reasonably should um I’m going to read a

Quote about what his goal is here quote the whole whole world is in my hand and I will conquer and subjugate the world when we are in battle against the against the whole of the nation of the US if you truly are in love with the

Nation and if you truly love this nation more than anything else this nation will come into God’s possession and Satan will have nothing to do with it with that as a bullet we can smash the whole world he just say says stuff like this because he’s trying to take over the us

Because he realizes that if he takes over the US and Korea and a few other and like Japan and a few other countries he can just he can sees control the entire world and the other aspect of this is that he has this spiritual power

That allows him to sort of walk in the spirit world with some most powerful followers can do this too and so he finds and gets you know the the the He he’ll find world leaders in the spirit world and and get testimonies from them so uh here here’s some of what they have

To say uh this is part of Moon’s message of endorsement from John F Kennedy which takes the form of a letter to the United Nations those of you at the United Nations I am John Kennedy I want you declare an extremely important thing to you the fact that Kennedy is sending a

Message from the spiritual world to the United Nations is something that cannot be imagined in your world and it is very significant news through attending lectures of the new truth Divine principle and unification thought here in the spirit world I have understood the direction and the goal that the

World must take today I want to let the UN know the following Reverend Sun Yong moon is the Messiah the Savior and the true parents of humankind all humankind in the UN have to understand the ideology and works of refence Sun Yong Moon and and they have to accept his

Leadership and guidance so that’s that’s that’s spirit world JFK giving their endorsement to to Reverend Moon um that’s good I mean that is that is very like honestly very nice of him because you know it takes a lot you have have to have a lot of ego to be the president

And to really just bow down to this guy in Korea um good on you 36 presidents give him give him his endorsements wow you that that’s turning me around on this it’s actually worse so 36 presidents endorse him while Dead uh like five presidents have endorsed him while four presidents have endorsed him

While they were alive so yep really yep well endorsed him in one way uh got gone on tours with him with his organizations and said that like uh or G like given speeches for him and said that he was doing good work uh yeah yeah okay okay that makes sense not endorsing

Korean sovereignty over the United States but like yeah this dude’s a cool guy cuz he’s paying me makes sense that sounds like was one of them was Clinton wasn’t it amazingly no wow good for you Bill stunningly stunningly Bill Clinton no George W bush though yes yeah uh what

About Carter Carter seems to have not liked him which is which is good so good on doesn’t have the best history with Korea Carter but at least he’s got that right yeah there’s a lot of these sort of exibitions to the spirit realm and in

One of them like one of his followers is this guy named Lee and uh so Lee goes to spirit world and he he finds marks he he has to wander for like a many days he finds Marx in this like oh okay he finds Mar this like incredibly shabby Town

Yelling comist stuff at a bedraggled mass and Lee spends two days arguing with him is uh is is is Engles there does get to go to there’s there’s there’s no mention maybe Engles got tired of it I don’t know yeah but Le least like two days

Arguing with him and it’s like yeah I made a serious dent in him like markx was incredibly embarrassed at the fact that i’ disproven him uh he finds Stalin who’s like barricaded in this like mud hut he’s he was barricaded in a house and there’s like mud Huts all around it

And when he tries to go find Stalin Stalin has his guard beat him up so he never gets to see Stalin that that does you know what that does sound a little like Stalin he did love to have guards do is reduced to a pathetic Drifter um yeah

That also sounds like musolini to be honest I mean a lot a lot of this is track to Tojo is like living alone in a house that he created where he has like a Shino Shrine to himself also tracks again does kind of sound like Tojo okay

When he meets Lee he uh cries and recants after hearing about Reverend Moon’s teachings so and then gets forgiv that does not sound like Tojo that that does not sound like too Mo meets Jesus at one point and Jesus is incredibly grateful that moon like hasn’t married

To some spirit and then he says that like he says that he doesn’t like Jesus is like yeah I don’t deserve love but he’s incredibly mad that people are focusing on the crucifixion it gets better it gets better God that is so bold that is so bold he’s mad that people are focusing

On the crucifixion and not the Washington Times which is actually the most important thing that God’s doing on Earth because the Washington Times is Moon is Moon’s Outlet Jesus stop stop the crucifixion the crucifix matter stop talking about my brutal murder by the state and start talking about this [ __ ] tabloid incredible

It does I would love it if Christ came back and did so primarily to sell subscriptions to the New York uh examiner or like the [ __ ] uh what do you call it the what’s the what’s the what’s the fake newspaper the famous one [ __ ] this would have been funny if I

Remember new Max no yeah whatever that wasn’t the one in my mind National Inquirer yeah yeah all right well I botched it please continue so the the last person that he finds who’s I me he finds a lot of people but he he finds Hitler and Hitler is tied oh wow okay

Good I was wondering is tied eagle spread to a tree with a sign pin to his chest that says King of the Nazis and all the Jews that he killed are uh throwing bricks at him now see that doesn’t sound like a great afterlife for

All the Jews that he killed so so moon sees this and is like no stop this he’s like well okay so all these Jews can’t like move on with their with their lives right because because of the Holocaust and because you know of Hitler that I mean that does sound like a bad

Situation it is kind of messed up for him to imagine that for his his solution to this is forgiving Hitler so that quote a Jewish virgin can go to heaven and yeah yeah so he forgives Hitler because hit’s a spiritual drain in the sink preventing all the Jews from

Going to heaven and and this is where I should mention this Moon and like like the unification church is like like structurally anti-semitic like on a level that sounds pretty anti-semitic to me Chris she has said moon has said multiple times in multiple places that uh that Jews are responsible for the

Holocaust because they killed Jesus which is like literally the oldest anti-semitic attack I thought it wasn’t as big a deal as the Washington di apparently it is I it’s about enough of a deal that uh yeah it’s he he’s blaming the Jews for the Holocaust because they killed Jesus and then

Uh yeah he you know he says this a lot and he he also he he has a lot of things that he said that are just like really bad like he says that gay people are dung eating dogs will be exterminated by God um so so yeah there’s a lot there’s

A lot of like stuff like this um he’s also you know so so in his actual cult he he has like one of the big things he does he has all of his followers like spend 18 hours a day selling flowers for him and you know okay so there’s there

There’s enormous pressure you know this this this is all your normal cult stuff right you you you have your Norm speci not to leave you have your like labor exploitation you have your like you’re stuck in this cult you have your marriage stuff and so this is this is

The story you know and you know they have their battle with the de Pro ERS in the 70s and when I was in this episode this is what I thought this episode was going to be about but it turns out that while all of this stuff is real and it’s

Happening and it’s important this is not the real story of some young Moon that story the story of how a Korean CIA influence operation and the fascist wing of the Yakuza helped turn a minor Korean cult into a world-class anti-communist political organization that funded death squads in 12 countries uh and built the

Modern religious right started starts with a coup in 1961 oh boy howdy that was a lot it’s taking a turn we’ll get through all so in in 1960 an uprising by Korean students and workers finally overthrew the horrific dictatorship of Sigman re now their their heroic struggle gets

Them exactly one year actually actually I think it’s less than a year of democracy before pu Chun he an incredibly fascist military officer like nobas Kishi met perk chuni after like after P chuni took power and even Kishi was like hey you can’t say that fascist stuff anymore like you’re you’re he he

He’s so fascist that Kishi like the arch Japanese fascist war criminal was like dude you got to tone it down and so he takes power um in in this coup and this coup is is is masterminded in large part by an army officer and politician named

Kim Jung pill pill his name is his name is Kim Jong pill Kim Jong pill that does sound like a joke we would have made if Kim Jong had gotten addicted to O he’s one of the worst people in Korean history uh he’s famous for uh so he he

Leads a political party after there’s the revolution you get democracy back um and he he has he has a he manages to get himself installed as prime minister through a bunch of back room dealing even though he had a 4% approval rating so that sounds like all you need he’s

Incredibly widely hated um Now by by 1961 Moon’s church is firmly embedded in the Army uh bohi Pac last seen stealing a baby from his mother’s arms and raising him as his own son uh has the same rank in the Army as Kim Jung pill um another Mooney is is Kim Jong pill’s

Close close lieutenant and translator and assistant and several other moies also on translators for Kim Jung pill now it’s unclear to me whether Moon knew this coup was happening that there’s no direct evidence that he did but it’s it it seems kind of likely because there’s

So many people who are in Moon’s Inner Circle who are also in the Inner Circle of the coup plotters in the army that it’s it there there’s a pretty good chance that he that he knew that this coup was going to happen uh what we do

Know for certain is that Kim Jong pill founded the Korean CIA which is like it’s like the regular American CIA except they also they’re also the internal secret police which is they roll the CI the regular CIA normally delegates to the FBI but you know they they they hunt down dissident they kill

Them they’re extremely bad and several very high-profile moies get jobs in the new military dictatorship that seems like a bad call I’m just going to predict that right now not going to well it’s not great um in 1962 Kim Jong pill has a meeting with bipac where he

Decides to use the Moonies who by this point have spread to the us as a way to run influence operations on American politicians now the result of of this Alliance is that the unification Church uh gets legal status and recognition as a religion in Korea in 1962 and a whole

Bunch of moodies wind up in the Korean Embassy staff in the US so this is going great yeah this is I mean there’s a there’s a level to which it’s it is kind of nice CU I we talked so much on the show about influence operations that the

United States ran in other countries to like [ __ ] with their government and their media um and you know some now people talk about like Russia doing that some but we this good I love I’ve never heard about much about Korean influence operations in the United States do you

Know who else is running an influence operation on the United States um is it the Washington State Highway Patrol it is the Washington State absolutely that that that that scans y it is it is but it’s also it’s also the products and services that support this show of which the Washington State

Patrol is one really our main sponsor Yeah we’re back back oh boy howdy I love supporting the Washington State Highway Patrol industrial can’t even say it seriously you can’t even say it I I know it’s Chris please continue now okay so when we left off moon moon moon has gotten Embassy status um by by embedding

A bunch of people in in the Korean Embassy in the US and they’re able to use the status and recognition and you know and and the recognition of the unification church as a religion in Korea to start getting legal recognition in the US and once they established themselves in the US they found

Something uh moon in particular is you know directly involved in this they found something called the Korean cultural and freedom Foundation or the KCF the first of well I don’t know if it’s the first but the first American uh version of the many many many many many many many many many insufferable numbers

Of unification Church FR unification Church FR groups now the kcss the KCF does two things it acts as a slush fund and a front group for the unification church and it runs a Korean dance group called The Little Angels oh boy this this is going to go a really bad place

Isn’t it okay so it’s probably not as bad as where you think it’s going to go but it’s not it’s weirder and not good either now a lot of the people in in in the in you know this Korean cultural Foundation like they don’t understand that it’s a church Frank Group which is

A common thing there’s a lot of people in in church FR groups who don’t understand what’s happening and with the KCF some of these people actually find out in in the’ 70s and they all get purged but in the 1960s this seems like you know this seems like an innocuous

Like Korean cultural group running a Korean traditional dance group and you know for people who follow Cults like yeah this is this is basically the Fallen gong shenu 40 years earlier but there’s two important different the Fallen gong are the is the cult that is responsible for all of those those uh

Billboards in cities that are like China before communism it shows some some lady dancing yeah it’s it’s a weird rightwing C we’ll get into one more this is this is this is like the OG version of this except there’s two differences and one of them is that the little angels are

Directly sponsored by the Korean government so it’s like the Blue Angels but little girls instead of aircraft and and the the SEC the second difference is that bipac is using the little angels to smuggle money from Korea and Japan into the US by stuffing the kids socks full

Of cash just like the Blue Angels every single Blue Angel flown by a child uh just just moving wads and wads of $100 bills across the world it’s it’s great so the cash of the little angels are smuggling come from two important uh sources one is Moon’s chap um CH are

These these Korean super conglomerates that basically dominate the Korean economy and he just has one um and he he he he has one of these conglomerates because uh Moon he’s able to set one up in 1963 presumably with help from his like allies in the military dictatorship

And this is the start of a massive economic Empire that gets built up in Korea they have a pharmaceutical company a stone company a titanium company they make M16 for the Korean army they make V Vulcan Min guns they make the uh m79 grenade launcher uh oh that is a good

One and and and they they also make air guns that are used by Korean children for military training yeah yeah yeah cuz this is yeah but and this is this is well I mean if you’re going to train kids with guns give them an air gun

First you know don’t go right to a a full rifle they make those and and this this is just the that’s just the early stuff in Korea uh moon has literally hundreds of businesses across the world that bring in hundreds of billions of dollars a year I hundreds of millions of

Dollars a year now the the the other important source of funding is the rapidly expanding Church in Japan which is the financial Empire of the cult and there’s a lot of ways that they do fundra fundraising in Japan uh one of the big ones is they run the Seance scam

So they they have a bunch of lawyers and they target people who just got life insurance payouts and they have all these Mystics around the country and the mystics pretend to be able to channel their loved ones who like inevitably say that like no the only way I can find

Peace is if you give money to this Mystic or like the church or one of the front groups and they make like like hundreds of like they they’ll take an entire life insurance P they’ll make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of Just individual these scams and yeah the

Other source of funding is actually an old friend of the show uh but before we can get to him we need to talk about the world anti-communist league but uh yeah they’re one of the worst organizations in human history uh the world anti-communist league was founded in

1966 out of the fusion of two other anti-communist groups the Asian people’s anti-communist league and the anti-bolshevik league of n block of Nations so the the anti-bolshevik block of Nations is basically an alliance of like the Romanian Iron Guard the cian ustasi and then like a bunch of other

Nazi Collaborators and like people who did genocides in dud there’s a quote from the the leader of the ustasi who’s like a true member of the ustasi is the man who can carve a carve a child out of a mother’s wom with a Bayonet so these are great

People yeah the estasi is like of the Nazis one of the worst kinds you know I people say people say this a lot about Nazis but it’s like like these are the guys even even like even the SS looked at them and we’re like this is a bit

Much it’s I mean it’s like it consistently happens whatever is going on when it gets out to the Balkans that’s when it Finds Its most like its ultimate form by the time anything makes cigarettes fascism by the time they hit the Balkans they are the the best

Version of themselves so so that that that’s that’s one of the two groups the the the Asian people’s anti-communist league is basically like a creation of the intelligence Services of the military dictatorships of Taiwan and South Korea and in in 1966 they they do a Fusion dance and the world

Anti-communist league is born now in 1967 Moon has a meeting with two Old Friends of the Pod from my Noak Kishi episode uh Yohi sasakawa the the Yakaz a boss who created uh the Japanese Japanese black Shir ripoff and then uh visited melini before getting off in his

War crimes tribunal and becoming the self-described quote richest fascist alive uh through through his control of the underworld and Monopoly at speedboat gambling and the other guy is uh uh Yoshi OTA the yak is a boss who escaped his his own War Crim tribunal to to fund the liberal Democratic party kishi’s

Rise to power and then also notably survived a kamakazi attack on his house in 1970 Jesus quite a rogue Gallery it’s it’s this this episode is like the bastard’s Pod reunion episode like like everyone who’s ever been on this show is going to be here so to together uh with

These two fascists Moon creates the International Federation for victory over communism and it’s Japanese Branch uh shoko Rango which B basically means victory over communism um now shoko Rango is basically a combination of unification church members and dudes from the Yakuza with sasakawa as its head and kodan as an adviser and this

Alliance between the church and the yakaza provides the church with you know enforcers for its Japanese operations is also how they’re able to do all these scams in Japan because like Norm normally in order you know if you’re if you’re running scams that are like you’re taking $100,000 from someone

Right like you have to have Yak as a permission and this this is how they get Yak a permission to like run crime in in Japan and they also get access to sasak kawa’s enormous stores of money and on the other hand sasakawa gets legitimacy on the political stage for you know his

His role as an anti-communist politician now shoko Reno almost immediately becomes the Japanese branch of the world anti-communist league and they hold the next uh they hold the next one of the League’s meetings at sasakawa BO boat racing rage in Kyoto with full Moody supports now Moon The Moody move into a

New office in Japan on land that they that they bought from one nusuk Kishi who also openly supports shoko Rango and is the guy I think this is like the last thing we said in our episode about him is uh he he he’s the guy he he integrates the unification Church into

Into the liberal Democratic party so they’re just like a part of the Japanese establishment now it’s great it’s it’s a good time that’s wonderful um cool well I this is worse sounds fun glad we’re doing this I like I I I I really just want to keep mentioning this that organization’s goal

Is Reverend Moon taking over the world and establishing a global theocracy with him as the head of it like that that’s that’s what this thing is and they keep getting integrated into the ruling class of the political parties that run like major industrialized nations it’s it’s

Very cool and good now with with with these powerful backers and sophisticated organizational capacity uh the Moonies spread like wildfire um moving into 1970s Moon gives like probably my favorite Moon quote about his operations I really keep the FBI busy trying to keep track of me after the Washington

Monument rally their biggest question was what in the world I would do next even Satan is saying what is Reverend M’s next move where should I take my big guns but most important is even God is asking where are you going next my plan is clear and simple I am inexorably

Moving towards the absolute center of the universe so this guy’s got a little bit of an ego I mean he’s he’s like he’s he’s not just doing like the Beatles were bigger than Jesus off-handed thing he’s like no let me explain to you the ways in which God is impressed and

Baffled by me it’s it’s really incredible now the the the the center the inexorable the absolute center of the universe uh turns out to be the US where moon moves to an 18 acre estate called East Garden in the Hudson River Valley now this place is nuts um here’s

Here’s description of it from the new Republic his wife and children who now numbered 13 had run of East Garden in its lavish manner some of which one of which contained a bowling alley six pizza ovens and a water fall in the dining room you know while in the US

Moon starts running influence operations for the Korean CIA uh one of those operations it turns out is funding the Heritage Foundation yep yep good so Ed fuler who the Heritage foundation’s co-founder uh writes for one of Moon’s newsletters in the 70s and the foundation at like the very beginning of

Its existence gets $2.2 million of kciaa money through one of Moon’s front groups it rules maybe this guy is the center of the universe Moon Moon begins to develop just like an incredibly sophisticated network of allies in the new conservative rights uh one of those figures is the infamously racist strum

Thurman who uh solves one of moon and he he solves one of Moon’s Visa issues so Moon’s about to be kicked out of the country in 1974 because his Visa’s up and strum Thurman who had become a moon supporter through a meeting of the world anti-communist

League uh it’s just like no I’ll I’ll just fix this for you and so she’s able to stay in the us man yeah and so so strum Thurman thanks strum the one time you’re not racist for this now this shump the becomes Moon’s like one of his first allies on Capitol

Hill but Moon m is not content with one Senator helping him out uh with Watergate breaking moon sees his chance to get Richard Nixon on his side so in 1973 Moon creates the National Prayer and fast committee to support Nixon dream Watergate and Stage protest and

Like they bought a bunch of ads like like yeah so they they do this proon nixing thing they they have this protest that’s always where it starts with these like right-wing ghouls too like that was the first time they did the thing that they had been doing for a while and

Actually faced consequences and they were like we got to reengineer the entire world so that that never happens again yeah so so they they hold this protest outside of the White House and Nixon’s giving his speech and they like storm the barricades and interrupt the speech to like shout support for him and

This gets Moon a meeting with Nixon in 197 74 which makes Nixon one of six presidents to either meet with or support Moon his organizations which and again I cannot emphasize this enough is dedicated taking over the world and crowning Moon as a Theocratic god king it’s great six presidents most of

Whom are still alive the the the the church also started running another series of KCA operations including staging protests to support the interest of the South Korean dictatorship and a wide- ranging operation to bribe hundreds of congressmen and infiltrate their offices by having pretty young women hang around

Their offices until they get a job and this like finally like at the point where they’re literally running intelligence operations on members of Congress is like finally where uh the government gets involved okay well it’s good to know there’s a line great so so don Donald M Frasier who’s the

Representative of Minnesota launches an investigation into the into the KCI into KCI operations in the US through the subcommittee on International organizations now Frasier discovers just an enormous tangle of Mooney and kcia money mov moving through FR groups uh he finds an attempt to buy at a bank and do

Money laundering a bunch of people just like stuffing wads of cash in in the briefcases uh three Senators off offices infiltrated max of taask evasion and a planed my moon to use his businesses and church to conquer the US now this Scandal becomes known as Korea Gates and

Despite multiple requests by Frasier and the committee and you know and this this the thing is this is a bipartisan committee right like and both the Democrats and the Republicans on are like hey you need to do something about this guy and nothing happens because you

Know South Korea it by this point is too important of an American Ally for them to for the us to do literally anything about it running influence operations in the US yeah I mean and what are you going to do they’re all wrapped around our domestic politics too like what do

You what what do you what would you actually do I don’t know I mean they could um don’t let people make CTS anywhere but that’s not clearly not a reasonable thing to what so what does actually happen as a result of this that moon de declares that Frasier is a

Communist and spends an enormous amount of money to defeat Frasier in his run for Senate which Frasier winds up losing by a few votes now a few nights later someone tries to burn down his house uh no one’s ever caught for this but uh yeah it’s great that that the the only

Thing that happens I’m sure it’s unrelated investigation yeah so meanwhile moon is searching the entire world for investment opportunities and begins a massive rush into Latin America he poured over $100 million into into uay between 1977 and 1979 which resulted in U’s military dictatorship signing a massive arms deal with South Korea and

Uh lo and behold country companies in in South Korea get a bunch of the contracts now it’s fun I we’ve talked about what the urquan uran military dictatorship did during TR maro’s episode so we’re going to skip over that but uh moon is a close Ally of the dictatorship a pattern

That is so regular that you can literally track which countries of military dictatorships by when Moon starts getting close to the government like I I have done this while researching episodes probably like when this dictatorship start and I I have mood written down going there I was like

Oh okay I know when this happened now yeah and some of it he’s influencing the situation some of it he’s a smart [ __ ] and he’s like well you look like you might be about to take over I should probably get in good with your ass we’ll get into more of that next

Episode but right now we need to talk about something extremely important fish yes now like the band right that I followed for seven years during my youth in the sea that’s swim I’m I’m not familiar with the concept of something something you are familiar with that

That you are well aware of is that all great cult leaders hear the call of the sea yes that is true in 1980 Moon gives a speech called The Way of the tuna which which I’m going to read a bit of oh hell yes oh this is this sounds good

This is sounding good I have the entire system worked out starting with boat building after we build the boats we catch the fish and process them for markets and then have a distribution Network this is not just on a drawing board I have already done it in the same

Speech Moon calls himself the king of the ocean and dope dope dope I mean it you know I I he’s going to have to go pretty hard to beat the the the O the current owner of that title our buddy elron Hub but I’m I’m willing to listen

We’ll see so this is the beginning of well by 1980 it’s already going but th this is this is sort of the origin point of Moon’s attempt to build an enormous Fleet of boats take over the American Fishing industry so he buys a boat

Company ah see I do I have to give him I’m going to take points away for having such crash fin crash Financial ends elron hubard didn’t take to the SE and build a Navy to make money he took to the Sea and made a Navy in order to get

20-year-olds to search for gold he buried in a past life that he knew wasn’t there Moon’s like stated justification for this is that he wants to feed the entire world by uh getting a bunch of fish I I think I I I think it is a lesser fishing Expedition than

Hubbard’s but it’s still I think incredibly impressive um that that that does show an amazing like amount of faith in the ocean’s ability to keep making fish it’s pretty incredible well well we’ll get into a bit of what happens there so this so he he he buys

He just like buys a boat company and then uses the boat company to make boats for this Fleet and he puts a million dollars into it and and this operation is the beginning of the great Moody Fleet and it’s called The True World group and you know in classic cult

Fashion its Founders like sleep in these communal apartments and you know they work horrendous hours for like this fishing dream and it works uh you know here here’s from the Chicago Tribune uh true world is so ubiquitous that 14 of 17 prominent Cho sushi restaurant surveyed by the Tribune said they were

Supplied by the company now because this is a capitalist Enterprise and a cult they immediately start doing crimes uh there yeah their Alaska Branch gets convicted of a felony for going like enormously over the bolts carrying boats carrying capacity and endangering the crew by having a boat that is like

Enormously too heavy to to to float I got to say I respect though we’re not just going to endanger the ability of the ocean to continue to support life we’re going to endanger our Fisher too you know what both at once baby not only that they are also going to endanger

Everyone who eats this fish so when when when pot alumni the Food and Drug Administration tried to inspect a warehouse in Detroit in 2005 they found quote gross and unsanitary conditions now the manager tries to keep the inspectors out and says that his supervisor was quote a great man that he

Was part of a new religion and if we took advantage of him then God help you uh from the Tribune again later according to that FBI report an employee wearing a ski mask approached one female inspector put his thumb and forefinger in the shape of a gun pointed at her and

Said pow you’re out of uniform it’s amazing they’re just threat they’re just threatening the the FDA oh it’s great I mean I think most of what we know about the FDA is that they’re probably going to just take it amazingly no so you know the FB the FDA

Good for them good for them good for you has done like an enormous number of terrible crimes but they are not on the pig the payroll of big fish so they they try to come back to inspect this facility again they they they get a court order and they’re like okay we’re

Going to come inspect this facility and the booties are just like okay we’ll just shut it down instead of dealing with this because they’re doing so many crimes that they were like yeah okay we will lose this entire facility rather than have the FDA inspect it one time

Now the the the the other part of the scheme is that they’re they’re they’re basically attempting to use you know those Mass weddings ceremonies uh they’re trying to use them to get uh the Japanese members of the church who are like the most committed members of the church citizenship so they can bypass

American Fishing restrictions about who can fish in American Waters now this is kind of a problem because for a long time like Moon’s weddings weren’t considered legally binding weddings that makes sense cuz he’s just a guy because he’s just a guy yeah so and like Mass weddings that might not be recognized by

Like law cuz it maybe the law is like well you have to yeah there’s like papers I think eventually they they start getting considered actual marriages but like this this plan doesn’t really work yeah it seems like there have to be a process you would go

Through but the the the problem is that even without the sort of like the influx of Japanese fishermen this works um and you know you have this interesting mix of the so some of the people who are working for the this Fishing Company are like in the cult and some of them aren’t

And you know there’s this whole thing inside the company where like the people who are in The Cult get promoted fast and the people who aren’t in the cult kind of get like subtly or like hey take this like propag a thing but this like this fishing group takes over the

Fishing industry like like in in in 2005 alone the true World group made $250 million yeah that’s not bad again like like 15 of 19 sushi restaurants that Chicago Tribune interviewed we’re like yeah no we buy our fish from the Moonies it’s like yeah I mean that is

Chicago so they have operations in all 50 states and it’s very similar in everywhere else because they’ve they seized control of the American Fishing industry that that on on on this somewhat happy note uh with with with you know the great Mooney Fleet thriving and Moon’s call to the Sea for filled uh

We’re going to leave it today and we’re going to come back next time to see Moon fund a horrific series of war crimes in the name of world peace well I got to say Chris it takes a lot for me to be impressed by a cult leader um but this

This guy this guy is pretty good cold ler got got to give it to him you haven’t seen [ __ ] from Moon yet like this is this this all of this is the warm-up intro the actual he’s laying the bones he’s putting down the foundation so he can he can really really do some

Crimes oh baby yeah this is my favorite part when the cult leaders at the top of the [ __ ] roller coaster and you just know they’re about to go zero g baby oh ah Chris thank you do you have anything to plug who what do you do who are you

Where do you I work I work for Sophie media I work on it could happen here I do some other stuff I’m on Twitter at it me chr3 I do I do that yeah Robert do you have anything to plug I have a a novel you can pre-order it now if you

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