Japanese Garden

217 – Stalin Agrees to the United Nations – WW2 – October 22, 1943



A Conference in Moscow lays out some postwar plans of the Allies, but the war has to be won first. The Allies fight their way across both the Dnieper and Volturno Rivers, but the going looks like it’s going to be tougher after the crossings. Meanwhile, in the South Seas the Japanese change plans in the face of Allied advances over there.

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39 Comments

  1. Join us on Patreon: https://bit.ly/WW2_217_PI

    The United Nations is a good reminder of how much of our modern world was forged in World War Two. What started out as an international alliance against Nazism grew into the global body we know today. Institutions, technology, and borders that were decided in World War Two are ever present around us today. That's why we love this series.

  2. Question will you be covering the Tuskegee airmen (red tails)? Since I see there planes in the intro.

  3. Stalin probably saw the UN agreement as toothless or I doubt he would have entered into it. He was power-hungry, paranoid, and had recently been in an agreement with another uneasy alliance partner that had ended badly for the USSR.

  4. What’s happening to WAH playlist?

    It’s not complete and miss a few episodes. It’s kind of difficult to find them

  5. always thought Allied forces were larger than German in Italy by the Battle of Mt. Casino… and never known Rommel almost took over from Big Albert (hey hey hey) this is really wonderful series, glad I subscribed, my thanks!!!!!!!!!

  6. I hope Indy is enjoying the MLB playoffs – especially with the Astros sweeping every game so far!

  7. And, as a side note – on the often preferred website Odysee, you've not posted the correct version of this video. The one there is only 10:30 in length, including a 2 minute leader countdown at the start. Curious why comments can be made here and not there.

  8. Would you belive it these days lslam is Quietly dominating many countries aiming to take over the world if there is a world war3 it is not China or Russia that you should be aware of .

  9. Stalin seems like a nice chap. If he says the Soviets will play nice after the war I see no reason to believe otherwise, even if he is a goshdiddlydarned cormanust. Pity things are bogging down on the macaroni front, I've got ten shillings on it being over by Christmas.

  10. The maps get better and better. I love the corner map giving a larger scale view. It really helps the description better than before! Great job Timeghost Team!

  11. Hi Y'all,
    I talked to a guy on a train, he was 18 and was in D-Day, hadn't seen much action, came home early, told this story.
    He had been in a camp, had all of his gear, except his weapon, an M-3 Greasegun. They were asking why they couldn't go ahead, even without all their kit.
    All the camps had mess halls, and there was a guy with a clicker counting how many guys showed up to eat.
    There would have been two sets of camps, ones with people who had all their gear, and camps with people who did not.
    Just by looking at how many men showed up to eat at each of the sets of camps gave the Headquarters an idea of how many were ready and how many were not.

    The question of China comes up in the comments, and I start talking about Viet Nam.

    In May of 1972, Nixon was still president, the North launched an attack, he sent out the B-52s, and stopped it cold.

    In the fall of 1974, Nixon had resigned, Ford was President, the Car Dealers had gone bankrupt, and the government of the South thought it might be a good idea to evacuate the Central Highlands.

    John Paul Vann was dead, there was no connection, for whatever reason, the B-52s stayed in Guam. Essentially, no one made it out of the Central Highlands by land. If you didn't fly, you died or became a prisoner.

    That is what war in Asia is like. It isn't halfway.

    PS Car dealers going bankrupt? Why would that matter?

    In October of 1973 there was an oil crisis, the price at the pump doubled, and car dealers who had gone into debt to buy cars that got 10 MPG, could not sell them. These were the most conservative people in town, and as a group, in the nation. Without them the support for the war lost its last defenders.

    Back to WW2, in the US they are building as series of pipelines to transport gasoline from Texas to the Northeast, U-boats kept sinking the tankers, don't you know.

    They won't be needed, after the war they will be repurposed to handle Natural Gas. The pipelines are easy to run in rural areas without getting close to people, but not so in cities.

    The car manufacturers will build their new plants in the rural areas, where they can tap into the pipeline, and not in the old urban areas, like Detroit. Detroit was run on coal, it is not hilly at all, coal was easy to transport. Look up "Detroit Schools for sale" on Loopnet, and look at the chimneys.

    Suggested reading "Big Rich" by Brian Burrough.

    Thanks for your time, take care.

  12. Decent episode as usual, however @4:50 the caption is incorrect, Miklos Horthy wasn't 'the King of Hungary', he was merely the regent

  13. He forgot to mention that not only did the trains the 5th Guards Tank Army found contain brand new tanks and equipment, the trains that were about to depart contained dozens of helpless wounded German soldiers whom the Soviets massacred with machine guns and grenades.

  14. as a thermodynamicist i find it slightly surprising that these fronts are so stable and take so long to move

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