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One of the most humorous takes on Armegeddon I've heard. You crack me up, Luke.
There's a seed company that sells flower seeds, especially wildflower seeds that comes in mylar packets. Their claim is that it's to preserve as much of the seed viability as possible, not that the seeds will let you replace your flower beds in the event of global thermonuclear war. Many of their seeds require cold stratification or winter sowing.
But — beware Zombies don't want your food or your seeds, they want your brains to eat!
Buying heirloom seeds instead of hybrid helps for being able to save your own seed instead of doing the seed vault thing. And the time to learn how to save seeds is NOW, not during Armageddon. FWIW, turnips are a great potato substitute. They work great in soups like beef barley. They aren't as mealy and don't disintegrate like potatoes do.
a month ago you advised i plant 100 tomato plants because gas hit $3 a gallon, now you want me to be less prepared, I'm so conflicted…
Does no good if your soil is contaminated everyone is gonna be eating radioactive tomatoes
Sounds like Brendan Fraser’s Blast from the Past movie.
I didn't realize those new variety seed packs went by that name. I don't buy them because there are a lot of plants I won't eat or probably won't grow in the low AZ desert. So WHY would I want to waste my money? It is better for me to just purchase the seeds I want to grow from MIGARDENER! Great price, selection and germination rates! Just wish they had faster delivery times! I HATE waiting! 🤨🤨🤨. I guess they are a great purchase for new gardeners who are willing to try different plants. It's just not me☺️. I think the person who said they rely on canned goods and preserves for emergency has the right idea. It takes time to grow food from seeds and at least water and soil. In a disaster water can be hard to come by. The weather may have washed out our gardens and so on. It's great to grow your own food and collect your own seeds. But grow only what you will be willing to eat otherwise gardening is only a hobby.
I know people who can don't leave jars empty on the shelf. They put water in them for an emergency until they need the jars for canning.
I had the same thoughts about soil on this topic. I'm thinking a government collapse of some sort effecting groceries will be more likely. Politics in the USA is terrible. In that case there will be people stealing your garden.
old friend of mine was very cash poor but land rich he would buy one of those seed vaults end of season every year for like $10 then the next spring just plant the entire thing and just graze. worked out for him. but he was not storing them Armageddon had already come for him. there is allot of eating in one of those packs you plant it properly in good well maintained soil. he was also not picky just hungry as doing it that way you get no choice as to what you get.
Exactly right. Disaster prepping makes perfect sense because everyone, no matter where they live, will go through at least one disaster in their lifetime. Doomsday prepping however, nobody is going to survive the literal end of the world. You're not likely to become one of the handful of lucky survivors who get to run around with your buddies in a post apocalyptic world and do whatever you want. You're far more likely to become one of the billions of zombies. At the end of the day, the best crops to grow are the ones you are good at growing, and the best seeds to collect are the ones you save yourself.
Good job Luke! People get so caught up in survival mode they don't think things out! Canning, freeze or regular drying and preserving extras is the way to go! Ready when you need them. They hold up well and stay nutritious. If we lose our water source or it becomes contaminated that method if lost. I am 76 today and to be quite honest, I am NOT SURE I want to survive that if or when it happens! So happy gardening, preserving and such!
Being prepared for hard times is a smart thing, just do it wisely. I had never heard of seed vaults.
The greatest tool in the event of natural disaster or armageddon is community. Socialism, not the "rugged individualism" that the makers of these seed vault boxes try to sell you.
Logic overthrows fear!
I fear I won’t catch Trifecta on sale on sale again! 😊 I need a couple big bags. I trust the longevity of it. ☺️
The ultimate irony of prepping is that by doing so the proper way. You are reducing the chances of an economic manmade armageddon by doing so. The more people who prep the less the societal systems will crash. Just by reducing the strain on the system because you are a prepper. Prepping should actually look like self-sustainability. If a crash happened you would not notice it until someone outside your setup who didnt think ahead alerted you about it. So garden, plant perrenial foods, save seeds, and store your home grown food. Make your own electrical systems. Collect rainwater. Have a library of knowledge. Keep tools for building and fixing anything and you should have the basics to actual prepping down.
You're too funny. 😆
I generally support your messages, and I do get the intent of posting this. I do wish you had stayed with the nonsensical idea of these seed vaults usability in the longer term (and many aren’t even heirloom varieties that could sustain in the longer term with seed saving because hybrids are unpredictable seeds). The characterization of preppers became somewhat of a condescending tone, which is unlike your usual content. I know many preppers who are genuinely good people looking at the world and seeking ways to support their families as many disasters occur around our devolving world. They’re not lunatics with superhero ideations. And I’m sad you went that direction.
Luke, I don't know where to start. How about your post from February 8, 2019? It is actually tagged by google AI lol. In that post, you gave excellent tips on how to save seeds. Keeping them dry, cold, and protected. Sure the viability goes down but it works. And no one is expecting to eat their crop within days of planting. Do I invest in seed vaults, no. But I did think I would be able to have a few seeds make it in order to obtain more seeds from what did grow. I sprouted black bean seeds from 2011, unprotected except for a ziplock bag. My rate has gone down over the years but I did get some to sprout, so far 2 out of 12. Those I bought from you in 2024, so far 2 out of 5. Either way, I will have black beans this year.
I am here for ALL the hot takes!!
Words of wisdom – grow a garden for fun!! Then learn to preserve what you grow! Home canning of fruits and vegies is a lost art that is returning. And now we have dehydrators and freeze dryers. I'm 77 and didn't learn how to can tomatoes and vegies until 2 years ago. You're never too old to learn new skills.
Here is a huge problem. Every prepper channel tells you to be ready to grow a garden. If you have never grown a garden, be prepared to fail. There is more to growing a gaarden than planting seeds, watering them and planning on a healthy big harvest. It took me to the 3rd year to really be successful and longer to be very successful, and I'm still learning. If I had depended on my garden the first or second years, I wou ld have starved!
Save your own seeds. Heirloom.
Can we add those Patriot freeze-dried food kits that were real popular during covid? My mother spent hundreds of dollars on kits of freeze-dried strawberries and zucchini. That's definitely going to sustain you after a disaster! 🙄
In 2010, I ordered a seed vault from a company in Texas. It was all heirloom seeds, and it came in a metal ammo box. They recommended that you start gardening with them immediately and save the seeds that you get each year. I don't look at it as wasted money. Just like when you buy car insurance or house insurance or life insurance. You don't feel sad that you didn't wreck your car or burn your house down or die to collect the insurance. It's just insurance. Also, You should certainly have maybe a year's worth of food to get you through the beginning of the economic collapse. Even more if you can. The greatest danger is not nuclear war. It's the collapse of the economy.There's a lot of famine in our future, I feel. You will need more than seeds. You need gardening tools, Garden books, Especially books for your area, I'm in the deep south, in the middle of Florida and it's completely different than the rest of the country. And start practicing now. It's a steep learning curve.
So we shouldn't Stock up and store seeds , because three of them, carrots , onions and celery have very short lived viability? Ridiculous!
Even if the mylar bag helps, the soil that you would plant your seeds in would be filled with nuclear fallout. .. 😢
The world IS crazier and more dangerous than ever. Not only do we have the threat that started from the cold war, but we have actors that don't care about mutually assured destruction, I.E. Iran, North Korea, etc. Then we have men who want to be women, and vice versa, which really wasn't practically possible until the medical profession decided that their Hippocratic oaths meant nothing. As far a seed vaults, there are several around the world. From the U.S. to Norway. Those people have MUCH more knowledge than you do and seem to be able to make them work. But they also have conditions that a regular person can't duplicate. It's also not just about the ground, if there is water available is the hard part. If there is, and you can get to it, you can grow hydroponically. Also, we DO have a working example of how to survive and rebuild after a nuclear blast. People were able to grow things after the blasts and that was back in the 40's and 50's. So I'm sure we can do better than that now.
Yeah I'm just growing for fun!🥗🌶🍅🫐🍓🥔🥕🫑🥦🧄🧅🫛🍐🥬 God has control of everything else!🙌
A constant supply of home canned foods is better for future survival. I can all I grow for the most part.
That's why you store food you can plant out .
🫤 It's what introduced my brother in law and I to gardening. We used the seeds right away. He didn't realize how much his boys would like it. Turned out to be a fun gimmick to introduce the concept. Now, just like with everything we learn, we find the more realistic, specialized sources.
Just eat your neighbor. Lol
My brother bought in to those supposed seed vault scams. He gave the Seeds to me after a couple years and i tried to grow assorted vegetables from them alongside my proper seeds. Not a single survival seed germinated.
What a SCAM!
Nukes are fake and radiation is just heat!!!
More worried about seeds drying out and not being viable anymore!
I prep, but it's part of gardening. Where I want to preserve my harvest, and I want to eat healthy, organic food. And if something should happen, I have some food.I have my own seed supply.You know whatever
I've always lived within 50 mi of ground zero of a nuclear attack. I save my seed year from each year's garden for next year's. It goes when I go from Armageddon. I've read Revelation and know which side wins, and I'm on that side. 😉