We're putting in a dry-laid bluestone patio with a walkway. The whole thing will be edged by a brick soldier border, laid on top of the concrete curb that you can see already poured in the first photo here (second photo shows them laying out the forms).

A few questions (which I will also attempt to post in the super unfriendly r/concrete; they generally don't allow homeowners to post):

1a. Was the concrete curb installed correctly? I don't know what the standards are for landscaping curbs, but based on my amateur knowledge of concrete foundations in general, I'm wondering about the following: They didn't compact the dirt under it or add any base. There's no reinforcement inside the curb. There are no control joints. The curb was not poured in a single day, so some fresh concrete (hand-mixed, btw) was poured right next to concrete that was a day old. There are signs of surface cracks already at one of the spots where new concrete was poured next to day-old concrete.

1b. If it wasn't installed correctly, how big of a deal is this? Like, do we tear it out and redo, or do we forge ahead? For context, we're in North Texas…we get a solid freeze here about once a year, and the soil is annoyingly expansive.

  1. The project lead initially told me (via text) that they couldn't pour the concrete until the brick selection was made. I was working from home the day he texted that, watching out the window as his crew was pouring concrete. I texted him, "They're already pouring, FYI." He responded, "The bottom of the concrete yes, but the top layer to mix in the brick to is what I meant." Now…based on my very slim knowledge of concrete, I thought it doesn't work to pour concrete on top of concrete. Is he just saying they'll mortar the bricks to the dried concrete?

Thanks for any insights.

by ImprobableOlive

2 Comments

  1. K-Rimes

    This is not looking good, friend. No compaction, no drainage, no gravel, no rebar, multi day pour, cracks already? Even without frost and expansive soil, this would be a problem.

  2. A lot of these landscape curbs don’t have rebar. If the curb will be covered by bricks then cracking shouldn’t be seen so there shouldn’t need to be many joints.

    The lack of compaction. Is a concern but it looks like they will be coming in with fill for the patio so maybe they will get their stability and grade that way.

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