We have very fine soil which may sound great, but it just doesn't hold any water. Even after biblical downpours it dries out within a day. I've thrown some compost at it and dug it in, but it hasn't made any difference.

I don't have space for a compost bin. What can I add to my vegetable patch and around flowers? I've just planted red onions so I think manure will be too much for them. Any ideas welcome! (Photo mainly because I love the little dude getting his seeds).

by Wibblesquirrel

25 Comments

  1. Supersonic_77

    Sorry no advice, just wanted to say amazing photo that, almost a contender for the country file calendar!

  2. Eschscholziacalif

    * Add more organic matter (compost, manure etc)
    * Mulch heavily (bark, compost, manure, etc)
    * Plant plants for the right space
    * Potentially make some raised beds if those don’t remedy the issue?

  3. At the end of the day, more compost is your only answer to add body to the soil. Mulching with coir or tree bark will help somewhat with water retention and will add humus over time too. If I could swap you 50/50 for my Herefordshire clay I would.

  4. Winter_Engine2973

    Mulching in spring is best, you’re helping to preserve moisture over the winter months, 3-4 inches is what i put down (aim to have it all done by end of March) and makes a big difference, digging it in might help improve soil structure but wont retain anything.

    if you haven’t got room to make compost then buying in is the only option, avoid anything too fine as it’ll just break down quickly.

    As for onions, no need to mulch unlike most veg I’ve always found they sort of thrive on neglet…..

  5. WackyWhippet

    Keep mulching with compost every year and eventually it will improve. Mine’s the same and it is a pain to have to keep watering vegetables and annuals but in some ways its a big advantage, especially with the way our climate is turning.

  6. sunblest94

    – Root systems, so plant plants! In the way that forests help to dissipate huge volumes of water.
    – Letting an area of that lovely lawn go wild could help!
    – Healthy soil, so adding organic matter such as wood chips, food dug into trenches, grass clippings to your beds.
    – Ensuring that you limit the amount of bare soil, with mulch or cover cropping (field beans are great)
    – I’d also encourage you to rethink the compost bin, plenty of space in that pic and it’s free soil for your lovely garden!

  7. TheNewTing

    The soil in my garden is basically sand. Compost every year. Not the dry potting compost that you get from the garden centre but home made with lots of plant matter. Manure is good. It’s a multi year story. Another alternative is to dig out the soil and put some top soil in.

  8. Milam1996

    What’s your soil like? If it’s heavy clay then it’s feast or famine. Conversely, if it’s basically sand with some mud it’ll be feast or famine too.

  9. Prior-Detective-6181

    I have a similar problem and after endless bags of compost, over several years, tried farmyard manure this summerm in desperation, having avoided it because of potential odours!

    It did make a difference and I’ll use more next year and odour wasn’t a problem. I used Clover Farmyard manure – but no doubt others are as effective.

    I had tried horse manure about 10 years ago (I was offered it free), but it did smell strongly and I had lots of weeds from grass seeds – no doubt both problems were due to it being too fresh. Whereas when you buy it in bags it has been well composted.

    One caveat is that manure doesn’t suit certain plants so you need to check – and dig it in well

    I had also tried horticultural vermiculite in flower beds this summer (before the manure) as it helps retain water. It didn’t really help me, but maybe because I didn’t use enough, as it is very expensive to use over a large area. However, it may well work well when in a more concentrated area of a flower/veg bed, and raised beds in particular. So that would be OK for onions

    Great photo by the way!

  10. CurrentWrong4363

    Coconut core is a good option that comes in dry blocks or pellets just add water.

    Give the area a good spike with a garden fork then rake in the core or compost.

  11. Dependent_Formal2525

    I absolutely love that picture.

    Have a look at Rocket Gro. They make and deliver really good composts and mulch, yoi can then just lug a box through to the garden and then open it in situ.

  12. Soft-Skirt

    Don’t pick up your lawn clippings, check to see if your lawnmower has a bung or other mulch option. As everyone else has said only organic matter can hold moisture. so don’t cut too short, I have mine set on 30 or 40mm, that way the grass is always green. Finally always cut last thing at night, never in sunlight.

  13. Feorag-ruadh

    More organic matter and making sure there is a healthy soil ecosystem is the way. No herbicides/pesticides. Maybe some amendments with mycorrhizal fungi/beneficial bacteria (they will aggregate the soil in a way that it becomes more sponge like and retains water better)

  14. Wonk_puffin

    Whatever the answer is I need to know so I can do the opposite. Waterlogged mud bath at present.

  15. Samwiseganj

    Don’t cut the grass as short.

    Edge the lawn all the way around

    Hollow core aeration and top dress with compost.

  16. South_East_Gun_Safes

    You could hire an aerator which punches deep hollow holes about 9-12” deep which allows water to get deeper into the soil. Topdress that with some compost so the holes fill with organic matter.

  17. Last-Biscuit

    Leaf mould, ie rotted down leaves, is also good and I would count squirrel poo as organic matter as well!

  18. No-Cheesecake2792

    My garden is full of clay soil. If you come up with a wheelbarrow we can swap one barrow of your soil for one of mine.
    After a few hundred trips we may both have perfect soil😂

  19. n1celydone

    Looked like a furry cobra when I first saw it

  20. kdawg123412

    Chat up a greens keeper. From what I remember of the job They spend alot of energy making sure the greens don’t retain water. Might get some tips on what to to from the other end of the scale.

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