Understanding Different Types of Seeds | Vegetable Gardening 101

Hey Neighbor! Today we have Tracy from Sakata on the show to talk about seeds! When it comes to seeds there is a ton of information out there on the types, germination, laws, and more. Today, we will be breaking down this information with an industry expert. What makes a seed organic? What are the different types of seeds? How to determine seed quantity? Get Dirty and Let’s Grow Together!

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0:00 Start
2:57 What Is Seed Germination?
10:08 What is Plant Vigor?
12:20 How to Determine Seed Quality?
17:59 What are the Different Seed Types?
27:08 What Makes a Seed Organic?
31:04 What are All American Selection Seeds?
37:57 Blade of the Week
38:45 Garden Spotlight & Old Goat

Welly we got a good show for you today neighbor we’re talking about seeds why does some seeds work for you germinate and grow well and why does some do not we’re going to cover that all today give you some great Insight on seeds The Good the Bad the Ugly welcome to the Rob by row gardening show the best dead gum gardening show on the internet where we talk about gardening a little bit of cooking and growing your own food now sit back and enjoy well we got Tracy here with us with if y’all know my friend Tracy here she is to see Guru I all things seeds I go to Tracy been in the industry a long time I’m getting old we was talking about just a little bit earlier we were 1997 woo yeah been around a block of time too yeah we know all the the juicy gospel and all anyway we’re going to talk about seeds today but first of all let’s get into a couple little housekeeping things here we got a little bit of tumor left little bit of tumor we’re sing tumor this year that’s cool organic tumor wow and uh We’ve sold a bunch of got a little bit left we’ll be selling probably for the next couple weeks so if you had got your T get it in you can plant this stuff all the way up probably into 1 of June there so you got plenty of time also sweet potato slips have started chipping and we still got Tomatoes pepper plugs in and out of inventory Peppers uh we’ll have more this week I know we was out last week we got plenty of tomatoes so for the next two three weeks we got plenty of plugs available and uh M I can’t think of anything else it’s springtime yes yep warm nice work starting it’s my favorite time of the year it is so let’s get into seeds Tracy because I know this is a interesting subject to you so what and we have this you know the the public really has a hard time understanding because they don’t know a lot about seeds yeah it’s interesting it’s still almost a scary topic and I can tell you once people find out what I do right they’re like well tell me why my seeds didn’t work and that’s a loaded question right had that had one of them conversations this morning yeah yeah uh I have these people that that uh call in or email in and tell me our seeds so and so when they get I said we just planted 10,000 of them and they all worked out wonderful so yeah it’s not always the seed issue although sometimes it is sometimes it is yeah so sometimes it’s a growing environment so it could be several different man it’s a conversation I go it could take me 30 minutes to go down through the checklist to say okay are you doing this wrong or you doing that right and all this most time it can be a moisture issue it can be a medium issue they’re growing in or a moisture issue with their soul a heat issue who knows yeah what is seed germination CU we get people don’t understand they do but they don’t but what is seed germination so the the actual germination is like the very beginning stage when basically the the seed comes alive right so and it depends on every seed no matter what kind is going to need some very basic things it’s just that those things vary then with the type of seed So you you’re always going to need moisture because the moisture is what um activates the seed right to then grow you’re going to need some range of a temperature of condition cool conditions warm conditions very warm conditions both right you need oxygen M so this is where the soil comes into play depending on how air rated it is right what kind of medium you’re planting in so then how much air is available for the for the seed and then um light is the fourth one so at some point all seeds need light to German them grow but then some seeds actually in that very very beginning stage of germination actually need dark so that’s another thing you have to make sure that you’re some seeds an example of that would be some the herbs Yes actually have to have light to germinate yes so so that’s why on the back of a seed packet right usually you have enough information on the back of a SE packet to get you going but that doesn’t mean you then don’t have to look maybe look up a few other things you know to get going so herbs are probably the most most complex to get germination out of that’s what I found for a lot of different reasons right and again though because so herbs are so different so every single crop that somebody might try to grow is going to have a different requirement that’s why I always say it’s so useful to have a journal MH or I’m an Excel spreadsheet person so I have spreadsheet cheat sheet right so something like that that keeps track of all the different requirements you can’t you know start a tomato seed with a cucumber seed with a kale seed with a lettuce seed all at the same temperature all at the same L and expect them to emerg and expect them to all do well so germination is a there’s such thing as seed standard laws or or seed laws that dictate germination yes so um the USDA has the federal seed act so they have very strict laws that tell us all what we can and cannot do when it comes to selling seeds and so we produce seeds and we have to go through these we have to follow these same laws and standards that the government sets before we can sell the seeds to you and then you have to do the exact same thing and make sure you’re meeting all those standards before you sell the seeds to the public so there’s a minimum on on different varieties or different yeah I guess different types of seeds these different germination laws that has germination has to meet different requirements for different types of seed right and what’s what’s really helpful is when the company like us or you takes that standard that the government sets and says okay that’s the absolute minimum for this seed to do what it has to do but our our standard is going to be higher than that course right right so the standard for I don’t know Peppers or tomatoes I can’t remember exactly but let’s say at 75 okay well we’re going to set ours higher 590 you can choose to set Yours even higher because again that’s just one element of a very complex process to make sure that the C that the grower has success the customer has success so why not make sure they’re the highest quality and set your own standards higher so they are companies out there and when I’m leading to this some of the cheaper seed companies out there that meet those minimum requirements right they’re actually they’re meeting the law there so and let’s just use tomatoes for example if you got a 70% germ or 75% that might meet the federal minimum standards for that so it’s legally okay for them to sell that seeds however your company sakata got a higher standard than that and then it comes to us and we got a higher standard than that right so some of your better seed companies now we’re not the onlyest one out there that does this no but it’s good to make sure that whoever you work with there is a handful of companies out there that have higher standards than what the actual minimum seed laws are and we’re one of them and it’s not easy to do no it’s not and and there are laws about how often you have to test to make sure that’s you know within now that being said that is different from federal that is a state law yes every St and and this is confusing yeah it’s all confusing and then and then someone like you you’re not just selling seeds into Georgia right like you have to make sure you’re meeting all the standards for all the states as well so the example of that is Alabama may be on 12 month regm testing and then Georg is on nine month so we have to you have to have the lowest common denominator and make sure you’re meeting everybody and the states are also different and this kind of a different subject so we won’t go down this but on um certain seeds can’t be sold in certain States because they’re considered like noxious weeds so you have to make sure you know those things are meant too so it’s very complicated process there are times I have to make the walk out to the dumpster and throw bags of seeds away yeah I me they are well I’ve done that a few times I normally take that upon myself me or Cameron one which is the over the seat here normally take that walk out to the dumpster and throw away and it’s a good reminder of us that we didn’t necessarily do something right there but it happens yeah and the thing about D is when it does happen I tell them this get away from them throw them away we don’t give them away we throw them away yeah and get out of them so it is tough now when a seed pops out y it is that’s the germination process is over with once this emerge yeah so the germination process so it first thing it does is send down what the radical which becomes the I’m good with that the um root which becomes the root right and then it’s going to pop up right so it’s go it goes down then it goes up and then it pops out these two little cup leaves usually is what they look like and those aren’t actually we don’t call those leaves right um we call them Cod leens because really what it is is just I call it like the um it’s the too food packet right it’s really just the food that has kept that kept and then out of that grows what we call the true leaves which are the leaves that look like the mature leaves on that plant and those leaves are the ones that will photosynthesize because those first little ones are just just the food they they don’t do that but once that has happened once once you see that plant yeah root and shoot the germination process is over with so the germination rate that you may see on a packet or whatever that’s completely at that point that’s over with yes it has nothing to with past the way that plant grows off anything like so then we can move into something what we call plant Vigor and this really gets muddies to water a little bit Yeah cuz this is also like it’s not necess plant Vigor is not necessarily at a stage a next stage but the the pure germination process of the root going down the shoot going up and when you see what a germination rate is when we do testing and a customer would see on a seed packet that’s germination then what we test for is VI is Vigor and the Vigor is well let’s just say that plant that seed did not get the optimal conditions what does it do then does it germinate and that’s it it never does anything else does it take longer does it does that process suddenly turn into to 15 days instead of seven so under stressful conditions measuring how easy how long you know what the conditions are for that plant then to go into that next stage that’s what Vigor is MHM now Vigor is not nothing that’s that’s mandated testing correct it’s something that we do above and beyond right right y because you have to assume right that not everybody is going to be very precise and look up precisely what temperature range and precisely you know what light level so we want to make sure that not only does the seed immediately germinate perfectly in a perfect condition but that if there are any other conditions that that seed is exposed to and then has to germinate in those poorer conditions or suboptimal conditions right and then afterwards will you still have success the majority of the time so a Vigor rating that’s high is also really important even though that’s you’re not going to see that that’s like a behind the scen behind theen this is the whole point I’m getting to here is we see a lot of seeds out there in the marketplace we’ve got competitors that sell seed packs for $2 a seat pack or you may sell them for a dollar a seat pack somewhere there’s a huge difference that’s the point we’re trying to draw today is a huge difference in the quality of the seeds that’s the reason you see cheap seeds out there and you see higher price seeds out here because there is dramatic difference in there and I don’t think the consumer understands that sometimes these these difference there the op Market as we call open pollinated or some people could call them they can be heirloom they can be but not always not always right it’s what I tell about an heirloom is always open pollinated but open poll is not always heirloom right so there is a huge difference out there in the quality of these seeds so when people purchase these things as long as they understand what they’re getting and inform consumers what we need now do we sell open pollinated seeds yes yes do we sell some Heirloom Seeds yes a lot of times they can be problematic we have a we have a hard time in house managing those type seeds because of the quality it can be a nightmare for us and when we buy seeds from some companies like sakata or whoever it’s it costs more money because you’re there’s a lot more that goes into it there’s a lot more that gets into it and that’s the point we’re trying to make is all these testings that goes into it that we don’t see with these with these other seeds right there there’s a place for both of them but there is definitely a a huge difference in the quality of those seeds right there now let’s talk about some of the things that we will see in in some of the hybrid seeds that we don’t see in the open pollinated seeds such as firus testing yes yes that’s a whole another layer so after we produce seed a seed crop it comes in it gets cleaned right so all the let’s go back a minute I want to talk about that so there’s also measuring things like Purity so you’re going to see Purity in there and you’re going to see um I forgot the name term anyway so so we’re not only testing for germ and we’re testing for Vigor we’re also testing for how much of this bag is seed and how much of it is inert matter or Wheats cuz there’s a lot of cleaning that has to go through to get that as clean as possible and then you’re going to do testing to make sure how much of this is true to type right how much of these seeds are going to come up all the same it’s going to be the right thing it’s going to look all you know the same and all that type of thing so you guys all that testing first and then once you have that clean tested viable rated good seed then we’re going to look at things like um testing for pathogens mhm and so this I sort of equate to thinking about it just like you with humans right when we’re sick and we go to the doctor and they’re like give me an antibiotic well is it bacterial or is it viral is that going to do anything and where did it come from so that’s the the same kind of questions we’re going to be asking we’re doing testing for seed for pathogens seedborn pathogens can have an effect on the crop that you’re growing yes which are different than food born pathogens so I get this question a lot too well do you test for things like E coli and salmonella those are food born pathogens foodborn illnesses there are separate pathogens that tend to live on seeds waiting for their chance to wreak havoc so those the type of things we want to make sure that we’re testing on for seeds so I have a little bit of a uh a sample here I want to show everybody okay so this right here is a heirloom open pollinated seed and we’re going to bust it out here we’re going to put it on the table and give everybody an idea of the quality so we see this a lot of these open pollinated seeds that we get in can I push sure will have will be trashy that’s just normal yeah so right yeah y because how many times you run something through a mill mhm every one of those things cost a certain amount of money right everyone every run through a mill wow look at that yeah so we have a an heirloom open pollinated seat right here and then we have Invincible seat right here now the difference in this seat is this is seed has been cleaned a lot more it has a lot less trash in it it’s been tested a lot more but also it’s been the seed has been took that felt layer off of it right there oh yeah so it’s easier rubed y mhm wow that’s nice yep so this is a sakata oh is it that was not planned I did not know that I swear yeah so this is kind of seed but the quality of the seed is so much more now this the seed cost a lot more than that yes went through a lot more of a process to get to our place than than this did so I have I just going to make comment about that because I hear that a lot oh that cost so much okay does it in a packet of seed because how many chances you I mean I of course I’ve used seed all my life you get a packet of seed are you really going to use 20 tomato seeds one time if you fail y does it matter that much in the scheme of things the price is not no it’s that significant very small portion of to get what you pay for and all the work not the cost but all the work you put in take care of that plant they have a good plant and the worst viruses are probably the the way to talk about this right here you baby a tomato along and it gets just right ready produced and you grow one day wielded from a virus but if you had a virus resistant variety then you still make tomatoes you put all that work and your hard work and your so into this one and it’s just it’s just going so because again because that’s two different things really too right it’s been bred to resist certain right things and then it’s been tested to make sure that uh other pathogens are not on the seed itself or living ready to exploit into now within seeds especially with the hybrids there are different processes that can go into seeds let’s talk about Prime let talk about pelleted okay cuz Prime seeds are a huge interest to me and I think there’s a place for that are there’s a place but I’m always cautious but they it doesn’t lend itself well to the way we do business now right exactly so priming really did come about for the commercial world and it’s very self-explanatory priming primes the seed to get ready to do what it’s going to do so when I was talking about the germination process earlier right the the seed gets the first part is the water is getting the moisture that it needs to soak it all up and get ready to pop right so priming adds that moisture it adds the um higher temperature usually so it it instigates germination but then right before that happens it stops pulls it back cools it off dries it out and that’s it that’s a prime seed so then that seed goes into a packet and goes to somebody and they sew it and it’s already brought right up to the edge so that germination process is going to happen a lot faster a lot easier and be a lot more stable and it’s ready to go so that is a huge Advantage one of the biggest advant of course we do that with tomato seeds yeah but one of the biggest bantes I’ve seen was that Rosemary seeds yeah for things that are super hard or take really long time to germinate like some things take 30 days to germinate so priming them you know cuts that time way back it cuts the chances a failure way back one caveat this is why I’m yeah think about it you’ve you’ve open that can of worms right you’ve got that thing ready to go it’s sitting there waiting what does that mean that means if you don’t plant it and you don’t let it do its thing it’s going to say forget it you had your chance doesn’t last your seed saving things out the window this one here Prime seeds work wonderful I’m a big Prof Prime seeds they got to be bought fresh yes and they got to be used immediately because if they will not store they’ll lose how much 80% within a year oh yeah so nothing should be saved after that year if they’re primed right so but again how does that work in a situation you you serving your customers would make sure that your packages have only the amount of seed that you think they could reasonably use in year so they’re not wasting it and you’re not wasting it and it costs more of something you’re not and don’t plan on saving them and don’t this whole idea of saving seeds now the commercial Farmers that works Wonder for them cuz they buy what they need right in the ground they plant it in the ground boom so that’s one reason you see some of these commercial guys look like they doing so much better than you because they using a different type seed basically pelleted seed now we can have pelleted and Prime seed but that’s confusing but pelleted seed within itself is just one thing yeah so pelleting is is adding a coating around the seed that’s round so it takes this flat little thing and it makes a tiny little round pill out of it and that therefore all of the seeds are this exact same tiny little circle and they all roll around like crazy if you drop them and what that does primarily is it just makes them easier to handle it makes them easier to put any into any kind of Cedar that you would use um and that type of thing so it’s pure straight pelleting isn’t doing anything for the emergence of the seed or how the seed is going to evolve or behave it’s just making it easier to handle most of the time that’s a clay coat some type of iner clay coat and it can maybe delay germination just a little bit because you got to sleth that clay off of it right so if moisture is the first thing that’s got to get to the seed for it to germinate you got to that moisture has got to First go into the clay get that out of the way and then go into the seed so you are adding a little bit of time right and then we have and Coen is a different Beast all together cuz coaton can be some type of chemical it can it can be a coat sometimes coating is very similar to pelling in that it just it adds a SL slick coating around the seed but the seed shape stays the same so again it can just be about handling um but then it can also add things to it so a coating can give you an opportunity to add um things to fight pathogens or things to um help the seed grow better um so I mean it can be a lot anything if bacteria is a problem on this crop if you know viruses or a problem on this whatever the fungi is a big one so whatever the problem is you could coat it with things that will help that problem to help it produce or it could be just an inert coating or it can just be a coating that yeah it is to The Next Step uh treated seed cuz we get this one a lot and I’ve got my opinions on treated seed it may be a little different from yours but we’ll we’ll we’ll hash it out so treated seeds yeah are treated with something to theoretically benefit that seed right and you mentioned it could be a fungicide which is most of the seeds are treated with fungicides there are some Biologicals going on nowadays out there that that could be done and it can also be done within incde now I’m not aware of any other treatment besides insect tode Biologicals and fungicides I’m not either okay so let’s cover all three of those the fungicide treatment and most home for the most part we don’t sell treated seeds we sell some treated seeds I really wish we could more but I feel like it’s a customer is not uh educated about the treatments out there or maybe a little bit scared of it scared of and they should these reason for that yeah but let’s talk about each one of them let’s talk about uh fungicides first okay we got a thym we got four five different major uh and you see this lot of corn yeah but you see it when it’s a color so how do you know it’s a color that’s right and and most of these in my book is a benefit for that plant there what you will find is just about all your Farmers or your commercial Market Growers won’t treated seed because they add a benefit to that seed yeah fungicides for example huge huge benefit um but it it’s about personal preference so it is good to decide am I do I want this knowing the benefits am I okay going down that route if I am then yes it’s very beneficial um personally I do both sometimes depending on the crop if I know it’s going to be a problem if I know my area I’m almost guaranteed to you know get the disease and I want it to have some help then I will use Tre seed I’m not going to get it and rub it all over myself right you know but well if you got small children you want take lick it you got precautionary to make them wash your hands or whatever but in my book fungicides are beneficial yeah and I don’t have a problem with using those L people or the toxicity of these fungus side treatments are very very low yeah and and you always know what you have you know you have a raw seat over here that looks like this right and you have a seed over here that’s got the shiny blue or shiny green or shiny orange coating on it now the next was Biologicals we don’t care any seeds with biological that’s C of new thing it is a new thing I like this idea I don’t know much about it I’m actually meeting with somebody next week that that does this from um from the Netherlands so I’m going to try to learn a little bit more about it but yeah there’s a lot of instances that I think it because it it works with soil to um increase the healthy organisms and to create like a symbiotic relationship sort of like inoculation with beans that’s another example right so so yeah I think there’s a lot of potential there and so again something like that is treated so we have to be really good at educating the public of what treated means in a particular instance because you know it could be that a grower or a customer who wants to not use treated seed would be okay with that because it’s not chemically treated right and the next one is the inz now this is where I got a little bit of my issues with so most of the seat treatment are done with the neonic toid classic chemistry that’s where I draw the line now you may see us carrying a treat toy with the fungicide or biological I’m not opposed to that where I draw the line is in setti side we’re on the same page we’re on the same page a good deal these neon to are the largest class of chemistry as far asdes used in the world now they’ve got a motive action that is off the chain what they can do but I have a problem with the way they work through the plant where they’re ingested into the plant into the Asylum and move forward so therefore I choose not to sell it to the customer I think the hom Gardener or the person that’s trying to grow their own food for the simple reason trying to be healthier or do the right thing should stay away from the KN and Nick TOS but I think also to have choices for the other treatments oh yeah yeah otherwise and I think that’s where people like us have failed is not given enough education on the biological on the Fung side treats out there so my whole point here is don’t necessarily be scared of some of those be willing to adapt some of the tree Deeds but we understand which ones you’re dealing with because not all good which leads me into a next one organic grower so no organic grower cannot use thym or fungicide treated unless it’s a biological right that’s correct they can use possibly the Biologicals we don’t know yet but I’m assuming they’re going to be organ organically rights yes so that’s the other thing there can be treated seeds but are treated with Organic things true so they’re still okay right right so let’s move into organic seeds cuz we get this a lot here and we got friends that sell organic seeds now first of all if you want to get organic seeds that’s okay but understand what the difference is the difference in a organic seed versus a nonorganic seed let’s do treatment out the window here that’s what talking about treatments the only difference is you correct me if I’m wrong is the way it was grown the seed crop was grown the seed crop was G there is you cannot look at a seed that’s untreated and tell me whether it’s organic or not that is absolutely correct can I add something to that sure this is this is a misconception I hear a lot is that is the assumption is that that if you’re going to choose a hybrid seed that it couldn’t be organic that is absolutely false there are organic hybrid seeds and this is what most people don’t understand but the reason when you go into the grocery store and you buy an organic vegetable I can almost certainly guarantee it was a hybrid the way the organic Growers are successful is by growing good organic disease resistant varieties yeah I don’t want to create this big problem but I’m also going to throw out there the truth too about organic produce a lot of organic produce has not only been produced by using a hybrid seed but is produced by using untreated seed not organic seed MH and that goes back to the organic seed laws so again here comes the USDA you know here comes everybody regulating everything um from the federal level so there are very strict guidelines the guidelines currently state that somebody growing an Organic Crop must grow it from organic seed unless unless I that seed is not available organically then they must grow it using untreated seeds so treated with not treated with any of the chemicals and things we just talked about so in the United States organic prod uction of seed to a level that’s able to supply uh The Growers that grow food for us even smaller truck Farmers is low it’s not there yet there’s not enough organic seed production to cover all different kinds of think what what the customer wants right so in those cases they depend on untreated seed so raw nothing on it you know no chem no treated right it anyway it’s still organic at the end of the day the produce right right and I guess we get this into a lot if you want to buy organic seed now that’s a per that’s your own personal preference whether you want to do that the chemical is not passed any chemicals are not passed along with that seed so I asked a friend of mine I don’t know that you know Jim Garrison do you know Jim I know that name Jim has been in the organic uh he was one of the for fathers of the organic movement he lives in main good friend of mine yeah I know so I asked Jim one time cuz I love to talk Organics with Jim if I got organic question he’s my go-to I said Jim why would somebody want to buy organic seeds and he told me this question make a lot of sense he says if you’re buying organic seeds your goal should be to promote the organic practices of the way that seed crop gr abely and I would add what you’re also it it’s it’s a statement about your beliefs and what you want so the other thing it does is when when you’re buying an Organic Crop you are buying a crop that was grown hopefully using methods that are going to help the soil and help the environment of that Farmland so that is that is like an an Ethics kind of choice not a performance kind of choice nothing to do with the seene nothing to do with seene it’s not a performance issue yeah so anyway glad we got that out of the way we we that that’s a big one that comes up all the time organ people don’t understand what they’re buying it’s not necessarily any difference in the seed yeah no so but if it if it’s upon you to really promote the organic industry and everything that by all means do it because that’s basically what you for it all yeah but as long as you understand what they all are all right so next thing we’ll move on to is this little something called All-American selection oh okay well that just back that was quite a quiz you just put me through W I was sweating you said SE anyway okay changing topics All America selections oh I know what I want to talk about here so this is something that we became a part of a few years ago we’re going to throw up on the screen right here what it looks like when you look at an all American selections when you’re looking at one of their seats okay you see this emblem right here yeah what does that mean that means that um an organization that H is comprised of all different uh levels of companies within the horiculture and agriculture industry including uh breeders people who produce seed people who sell seed people that grow uh universities ban Gardens all these types of entities have gotten together and we agree to look at what’s new and great out there and you say we because you’ve been an asss judge I was an as judge here for years for vegetables and for flowers and for bedding plants there’s a whole different categories um and all across the United States these new varieties of flowers and vegetables are sent out before they ever go commercial to the public they’re not available to the public and we the judges me past tense all get to test them in our in their own environments so if you’re a test Garden you get to test it in Georgia at the same time somebody’s testing it in Maine at the same time California coast and everybody judges them all season scores them in these very regular score systems then all that information is tallied and in the end you know there are thresholds that have to be met for varieties being unique different new to the market and perform over a wide area and all the judges liked you know so much about them and all these different places that they deserve this emblem so when they’re trial they’re trial against two or three other varieties that’s real similar yes so they’re new nobody’s ever seen them so um there’s a committee that chooses what’s the best thing out there in this category what would this be up going up against you know to a consumer who wants to look at this and decide whether they’re going to buy or not so we they’re tested against the standards so somebody sees this emblem on a seat pack if you’re looking online at seats it gives you a reassurance that it was Ed in a real life environment and it came out on top yeah exactly because they don’t all come out on top no they don’t so there’s a lot of there’s a lot of I mean I’ll just say sakata has been very very fortunate in having a lot of winners in this but that certainly doesn’t mean there have been a lot of instances I’ll say where we’ve entered something into this and they didn’t make it right right yeah that’s part of part of the process so you can be assur that it’s been trial now we have Regional winners yes we have National winners we do so you know it’s it behooves you to look at the regional winners for wherever you are and then understanding the the national winners you can you know you can suggest to your your cousin out in California right and uh Regional difference to me is huge and I one example I’ve been down this road onions so what works with onions here in the South won’t work for some much well that’s true like if an if an onion’s entered right do I really care if a short day onion does well in Pennsylvania it’s not going to so like that’s irrelevant so yeah that should be a regional winner y yeah speaking of all americ yes that’s why I got all excited um Sak just has a brand new winner that we’re able to announce um the first ever purple stemmed and and headed broccoli so it’s purple magic and you’re going to get the you already carry it you’re the first person to pick it up thank you we put it on the screen right here and we’ve got new information from testing we did it’s super high in um anthocyanins and super high and polyphenols um which are things that are really good for you um cancer fighting uh INF fighting and you don’t have to eat a lot of it you like five fettes to get the benefits of like a glass of wine or what’s really unique about it is the stem the stem the stem is all purple so it has all that nutritional content packed in the stems just as much as in the fluette because of its purple color and it’s really pretty it is it’s an amazing one there it is right there so we’ve covered a lot we have seeds why are there a difference between those cheap seeds that you buy that you see out there versus versus higher price SE there’s a huge difference out there and we do a poor job communicating that to you guys but I can promise you we struggle here and we have cut vendors we have cut vendors because of the poor quality they may meet the standards for their quality wasn’t it was trashy or germ didn’t hold or Vigor wasn’t there we cut them we move on WE by no means price is not from our standpoint price is not an indication where we’re going to buy from we look at quality in more and for the most part and there always there always an exception to the rule out there for the open pollinated and AUM seeds out there there’s always huge problems with that industry out there we have one vendor that’s doing a pretty good job on that right there and we’re actually contract growing with a a couple now that’s uh we’re doing that will it have the will it have the array of test and everything some of your seeds do no it won’t but is it is stepping up a little bit from what the the main say of some of these cheap OPC and you’re seeing that I’m seeing now more and more for that market for the open pollinated and or early Market that contract production is sort of I think the way this is moving in and should move into the future so that there’s more control because there because there are less regulations right huge difference in the quality of the seeds you get and the price reflects that and we we’re never going to here at Hall we’re never going to go with the cheap seed it’s just not in our business model no I mean we look at the Quality first and then we just moving into that price point what you pay foring in the end and at the end of the day if you paid $3 extra doll for a c pack and you grew some great quality plants that were disease resistant virus resistant three four bucks man well worth it can’t buy coffee for that can’t buy coffee for that Soh I hope we hope we Enlighten that a little bit if you have any more questions put in the comments below and we will do our best to try to answer this for you I miss n of the week so this is something we started doing a few weeks ago go knife of the week late of the week so I love knives so therefore I feel like I should share this with everybody this one this week is from a custom recer I don’t have a lot of custom knives this is from Custom Rec down in Florida dun knives D NN and they might really skinny knives or hunting knives but this is a nice little knife really nice sheath there done knives if you’re interested in a little custom made knives they’re not not as expensive as some of them could be but I got everything everybody’s got their f mine’s knives your knives I like open L knives oh I do too I got some of those really nice I should do one of them for knife and weat I have quite a few you can show yeah yeah this is really nice yep very pretty all right so we’ve got to get to Garden Spotlight of the week I want to show you this right here of course I mentioned onions has been my thing so this Garden Spotlight right here is Tina jurer and she’s in zone eight and she’s growing a load of hos onions radishes several lettuce spinach cabbage slucher garlic celery and just planted a few tomatoes look at her onions there don’t she’s planting the hard stuff too she is you know what when people figure out how to grow onions their confidence level just goes up but you talk about something tricky now onions are the tricky thing we’re doing a good job with that but onions has got to be done right if you do them right you can get loads of harvest off of them all right thank you that’s uh that’s Tina Tina Tina and her garden right there raised beds pretty cool that’s ni all right so the Old Goat folks all the set is an Old Goat figurine somewhere if you find the old goat put in the comments below where the location is and we’ll do a drawing next week for this week’s winter and I’ll let you draw for last week’s winter last week’s winter for the old goat is Dian Harris Dianne send us your information to support grow.com and we will send you we’re about out of we just had to order more sauce you look at these right here the get dirty socks these are coveted by everybody across the country I even I don’t have a pair but you should get a pair of these get dirty socks so we’ll send you send us your information we’ll get a pair of these nice get dirty socks out to you I hope everybody enjoyed the show it’s one great to have you Tracy you can just talk for hours hours hours on in about seeds and everything the IND in general keep in mind there is a difference uh in a lot of these seeds here a lot of different terminology and we didn’t even cover them all no we we just scratched the surface so thanks for joining us it’s springtime get out there and enjoy the weather uh and get those hands and feet dirty thank you for joining us