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0:00 Intro
3:10 Spain V Japan
9:25 Japan’s next game against Croatia
12:40 Poll results
13:30 JJ Winning the league with Wrexham
14:20 Seb talking about Germany – Garden centre chat
16:17 Germany V Costa Rica
25:00 How Seb feels about Germany / German team
27:15 JJ thinks Germany is a great team
29:15 Germany V Costa Rica cont.
31:00 German team compared to England team
31:54 Flick out Tuchel in? for Germany manager
33:50 Is there a connection between Bayern’s domination and Germany’s performance
35:25 Did Spain deliberately lose?
36:00 Will Spain prefer to be the opposite side of the draw?
37:40 JJ’s mind tricks
38:41 Is there a connection between Byern’s domination and Germany’s performance Cont.
41:50 Joe on Languages
43:30 What if a manager speaks a different language
44:10 Joe’s amazing predictions
45:39 Canada V Morocco
47:40 The Moroccan team
52:40 Croatia V Belgium
53:00 Lukaku chat
57:00 Dropping a football from a drone?
58:10 Croatia V Belgium Cont.
59:20 Roberto Martinez leaving
60:35 Well done Japan
61:40 Points are bad
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34 Comments
JJ is the Gareth Southgate of points are bad
"excellent pieces of work" – Makes me think of these gracious and lovely podhosts.
To the meat of the matter…
1:02:30
the people’s hero 😂
I agree with JJ, the postmortem on Germany was completely unnecessary. They only missed qualifying on goal difference against Spain, who stat-padded against Costa Rica with 7 goals. Nobody was prepared for Japan to beat two of the best teams in the tournament and take the first spot in the group. If Spain beat Japan today, none of this conversation would be happening. It was Japan's over-performance that turned this group on its head, leaving the two giants to compete for one spot. If they sack Flick (which I fully expect they will) and bring in Tuchel, German football will only go downhill.
Joe nailed Japan – Spain… Unfuckinbelievable.
Japan were pressing from the off but a few subs and lazy Spain second half changed it. Think JJs blind love of Pedri maybe ment he missed this. You could see mistakes in the spanish defence and arrogance of thinking the job was done.
When seb says "this reminds me of…" I skip his boring crap, as interesting as a halfords floor 💤💤💤
Has TIFO done a story yet on how much of the women's USA team are being provided from the male's checks this WC? More info needs to be brought about by brave people because this is silly
Give Lukaku a break – at least Belgium finally looked dangerous after he entered the pitch and at least he arrived at real chances. Sharpness off (which was to be expected), but he was in the right positions.
Joe really is the peoples champion
The ROONEY right at the end of the podcast version is where it's at 👌😂
Is it just me or is the bass on some mics too high? i always have to turn down the bass on my speakers even though they are not very bassy at all. I guess that's also a podcast thing but it doesn't sound nice
Huge shout out to everyone involved in these WC livestreams. Must be pretty exhausting. But they’re brilliant. Haven’t missed a single one.
I love when Joe gets drunk on success, truly the people's hero.
PLEASE PLEASE RELEASE THE POINTS ARE BAD MUSIC VIDEO. I BEG YOU. WE NEED IT IN OUR LIVES
Ever since the world cup expanded to 32 teams in 98 only one team has a better record than England at escaping the groups and that's Brazil with 7/7.
England (who failed in 2014) are tied with Mexico (who failed this time) and Argentina (2002) with 6/7.
England's record is surprisingly better than Spain, France, Netherlands and Germany (5/7), better than Portugal too (4/7), Croatia, Uruguay, Belgium and of course Italy at just (3/7)- Italy of course haven't gotten out of the groups since winning in 2006 with back-to-back group stage exists followed by back-to-back failures to qualify.
England, despite never doing too well are amazingly reliable at getting out of the groups!
37:15 what was that? 😂😂
The discussion on the German national team was interesting. I am German and i am a massive football fan, but i am not a fan of the national team. Me and many of my friends are season ticket holders or go at least regularly to watch our club (VfB Stuttgart). But none of my friends are even remotely interested in this world cup or the national team as a whole. This has to do with the whole boycotting Katar movement which i think is by far the strongest in Germany compared to other countries (mainly led by the Ultras of most German clubs). But it is also the result of the commercialization of the national team and really football as a whole in the past few years. Additionally, for years now the national team has consisted mainly of Bayern, Dortmund and Leipzig players. There are no players to identify with anymore, at least not for fans of smaller clubs. All this led to the viewing numbers dropping consiserably in Germany for this world cup. And many of the "real" football fans here even feel a bit of Schadenfreude that the team is out so early.
Also Seb is absolutely right about the new coach situation at Stuttgart. I think a lot of VfB fans really fear Labbadia coming back (he has managed the club twice before with varying success) and we would love to see a coach from spain or england or somewhere else for a change.
POINTS, POINTS, POINTS
Think JJ might have a sliiight cruh on Seb, Seb, Seb, Seb, Seb😅
struck me as a twee-touched dream pop version of 'points are bad.' cleeeeaarly inspired by Slowdive's 'Allison.' Seb's Elliott Smith read says more about him than the song. 🤣
Wasn't prepared for the garden centre tangent but very much here for it
This idea that Japan had to suddenly "make changes to their strategy" is inaccurate to begin with, but when a team does the same thing twice and you STILL havent figured out that it is deliberate, I think youre displaying a special sort of cluelessness.
Coach Moriyasu has carefully developed a 16-man strategy for every single contest (which makes sense given how deep the Japan NT is these days). His plans entail the use of all five subs at a very early stage of the contest, and that is the "Plan A". Of course there's a Plan B as well, but so long as Japan is "within reach" at halftime, then the changes are all laid out depending on how the second half goes.
The use of all five subs [the last one with at least ten minutes on the clock] is a central part of Moriyasu Japan's basic strategy, which is to "set up" an opponent with first-half play and then use second-half substitutions to seize control of the contest. I dont know if Moriyasu is the first to build a tactical plan based on five subs – Im sure there are coaches in Europe who have sat down and given thought to the dramatic impact this could have in terms of tactics — but I dont see too many examples of people who have sat down and created a game plan which specifically uses the greater flexibility provided by the five-sub rule.
From Japan's standpoint, it means that you can use pressing players up front like Maeda and Ito in the starting lineup, and have them run at the defence at full speed (knowing that they only HAVE to last for 45 minutes). In this way, they try to wear out the opposing defenders and midfielders with constant running. The objective (against top teams at least) is to make it to half time on level terms. If your hard press creates an early goal (as it almost did in both the Spain and Germany matches), so much the better. But the objective of that defend-and counter style of play is to get to half time while still "in the match". Then you bring on the likes of Mitoma, Doan, Minamino and Asano, who can run at the defenders with the ball, and take advantage of their tired legs. You also have the option to shift to a new formation and style of play as they did with Germany. The changes, when they are made, disrupt the other team's rhythm and style of play, and they are forced to make adjustments they might not want to make.
Moriyasu's philosophy is to let the opponent develop a certain style and mindset, as well as (hopefully) use up a lot of energy, in the first half. Then Moriyasu makes his five changes, and tries to win the game in the second half. That was the game plan **from the start**, and not some reaction to Germany's and Spain's dominance in the first half. While in the Germany case he had to adopt an almost insanely offensive posture in the end (they had five attacking-line players on the pitch – Asano, Doan, Mitoma, Ito and Minamino), in Spain's case they quickly shifted back to a defensive posture with the introduction of Tomiyasu and Endo. As I noted – all of this is sketched out in general terms, because Moriyasu's entire philosophy is to use the depth of the bench to win games.
Unfortunately, he seems to have taken Costa Rica too lightly, and changed his game plan to "give key players a rest". His starting unit in that contest was hard to understand. That bit of arrogance backfired, and justifiably so.
So long as Moriyasu sticks to the script, though, and makes his changes at the critical point of a match, I think Japan could go very far in the tournament.
Germany is missing Philip Lahm.
People rightfully go after lukaku.
How is truly the people’s hero
15:23 JJ having a Lacanian insight
Please tone down the random prattling – it starts to grate and detracts from the quality content. No one is tuning in for that.
Musiala. Germanys' 2016 Bale.
Much better version of Points Are Bad theme than the original runs away
Exactly, Germany came in got the goal and had no urgency to get more goals. I’m sure they heard Spain scored too and decided we are good, we’re through. Instead of going into that game trying to get the goals needed.
1:08:48
Any Canadian players that surprised you? I think a few of them could end up with a transfer after this world cup. Despite a relatively poor performance