It’s not a normal trowel though is it? A Japanese trowel looks very much like a knife.
What he was doing was perfectly legal but he was silly and could have solved all this trouble by simply having a tool bag.
I regularly carry a machete in public but I am not silly enough to go with it on my belt, I put it in a bag and no one is any the wiser.
KeelsTyne
This country is a joke.
AdolfKitler09
Seems like he had a small sickle on him too
_spalex_
Without seeing the article (not faffing with that pay wall stuff), I guessed it would be one of them Japanese knives, which definitely look like a knife and could easily be a weapon, theyre even called a knife. Why not just take a bag/backpack if you know you’re carrying something like that.
arduousmarch
He admitted guilt.
cascadingtundra
Misleading headline. It says he had a Japanese garden sickle on him. Which absolutely isn’t a trowel and has a clear edge/blade.
AlbatrossAfraid5047
For reference, this is his trowel. I’m not surprised they arrested him.
Ok…. There’s a massive part of me that feels horrendous for this guy and recognises the seriousness that this must’ve been really traumatising for him… The police acted like complete ass hats but it’s their duty to be skeptical AF and keep the public safe….I suppose ISH, maybe but also Dbags saving face clearly…
…… But the shadenfreude side of me is picturing a fully kitted tact unit turning up to this guy with his cottage style wicker basket on his arm full of courgettes and runner beans and I can’t help chuckling at the absurdity.
Exita
This is the problem with the UK’s ridiculous knife laws. It’s legal to carry more or less anything with ‘good reason’, but what counts? Suspect most people would say that the example here is fine, but if a police officer doesn’t agree, you’re stuffed. Then you’re left explaining it to a court.
Meanwhile teenagers stabbing each other all over the place with cheap kitchen knives, which the police appear to be able to do little about.
As an aside, *never* accept police interview after being arrested without a solicitor. The police are correct – he admitted an offence by accepting the caution. He’ll struggle to get that removed.
AutomaticElk98
On the one hand, I have a lot of sympathy for the effects this will have on him, as he clearly didn’t understand knife laws or realize how others would see his gardening tools.
On the other hand, FFS take the hori hori knife (and the serrated sickle) off your belt holster and shove them in your bag under the vegetables when you’re done gardening, because it is a fuckoff big knife clipped to your belt.
Thunderous71
Bit worrying, I have that “trowel” too, have to admit I carry it in a shoulder bag when not on site.
Daft thing is he is carrying it with good reason.
midori87
And most of the comments here are agreeing with the police. This country is full of bootlickers.
TeddersTedderson
He admitted guilt. Should have shut the fuck up and got a lawyer.
Proper nonsense though. I’ve been stopped and searched with a chef’s roll on me, 20+ razor sharp knives. Chef shoes and whites in my bag was enough for the po to send me on my way.
The guy in the article’s main issue was walking around like a tacticool Alan Titchmarsh.
johnthomas_1970
Serve himself right. No one should talk to the police, no matter for what reason without a solicitor present. Police have always fitted people up for offences like this, which is why solicitors are free if you can’t afford your own. This is not a fluffer service. Because the police are known to make up charges, you should ALWAYS have a solicitor present. The police are not your friend.
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It’s not a normal trowel though is it? A Japanese trowel looks very much like a knife.
What he was doing was perfectly legal but he was silly and could have solved all this trouble by simply having a tool bag.
I regularly carry a machete in public but I am not silly enough to go with it on my belt, I put it in a bag and no one is any the wiser.
This country is a joke.
Seems like he had a small sickle on him too
Without seeing the article (not faffing with that pay wall stuff), I guessed it would be one of them Japanese knives, which definitely look like a knife and could easily be a weapon, theyre even called a knife. Why not just take a bag/backpack if you know you’re carrying something like that.
He admitted guilt.
Misleading headline. It says he had a Japanese garden sickle on him. Which absolutely isn’t a trowel and has a clear edge/blade.
For reference, this is his trowel. I’m not surprised they arrested him.
https://preview.redd.it/srgat5d4gkff1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c821d2373ff61909b1363c2d4f2e093f97dff85e
Ok…. There’s a massive part of me that feels horrendous for this guy and recognises the seriousness that this must’ve been really traumatising for him… The police acted like complete ass hats but it’s their duty to be skeptical AF and keep the public safe….I suppose ISH, maybe but also Dbags saving face clearly…
…… But the shadenfreude side of me is picturing a fully kitted tact unit turning up to this guy with his cottage style wicker basket on his arm full of courgettes and runner beans and I can’t help chuckling at the absurdity.
This is the problem with the UK’s ridiculous knife laws. It’s legal to carry more or less anything with ‘good reason’, but what counts? Suspect most people would say that the example here is fine, but if a police officer doesn’t agree, you’re stuffed. Then you’re left explaining it to a court.
Meanwhile teenagers stabbing each other all over the place with cheap kitchen knives, which the police appear to be able to do little about.
As an aside, *never* accept police interview after being arrested without a solicitor. The police are correct – he admitted an offence by accepting the caution. He’ll struggle to get that removed.
On the one hand, I have a lot of sympathy for the effects this will have on him, as he clearly didn’t understand knife laws or realize how others would see his gardening tools.
On the other hand, FFS take the hori hori knife (and the serrated sickle) off your belt holster and shove them in your bag under the vegetables when you’re done gardening, because it is a fuckoff big knife clipped to your belt.
Bit worrying, I have that “trowel” too, have to admit I carry it in a shoulder bag when not on site.
Daft thing is he is carrying it with good reason.
And most of the comments here are agreeing with the police. This country is full of bootlickers.
He admitted guilt. Should have shut the fuck up and got a lawyer.
Proper nonsense though. I’ve been stopped and searched with a chef’s roll on me, 20+ razor sharp knives. Chef shoes and whites in my bag was enough for the po to send me on my way.
The guy in the article’s main issue was walking around like a tacticool Alan Titchmarsh.
Serve himself right. No one should talk to the police, no matter for what reason without a solicitor present. Police have always fitted people up for offences like this, which is why solicitors are free if you can’t afford your own. This is not a fluffer service. Because the police are known to make up charges, you should ALWAYS have a solicitor present. The police are not your friend.