Kill those lantern fly babies STAT!!!!!! Then the tree! It is their host plant
DJGrawlix
Foliar spray is preferred for trees this size. Glyphosate + non-ionic surfactant. Cutting the trunk will encourage roots to sprout in other areas.
Personally I’d use a drop cloth and paint the leaves in order to preserve the surrounding foliage, rather than spray.
Throaway_143259
The lantern fly babies are the bigger concern, so, if you can, treat both
jerseysbestdancers
Ive had ones that size before. I cut it as close to the ground as i could and anytime i saw green, cut that off. It was gone in a season or two. Planted wildflowers over it.
castironbirb
You’re supposed to wait until the fall to ~~cut and then paint~~ hack and squirt. Otherwise there’s a chance it will send up a gazillion mini-me’s.
Yes. I had a giant (like 5′ diameter) tree of heaven cut down in my yard. Do whatever you need to get rid of it. Glyphosate will deter it, but watch for new sprouts at the base and in surrounding areas. It took 3 years of vigilance pulling/spraying every sprout I saw before those damned roots finally died and stopped sprouting in my yard.
Smooth leaflet edges and that horrible burnt peanut butter smell when you snap off a leaf are my go-to ID methods.
emonymous3991
Kinda looks like a black walnut to me. If you have them in your area a squirrel likely buried one there and forgot about it. Definitely kill the lantern flies asap
ravekitt
Update: I just spoke to my Dad about it and he said “oh that weed? I’ve tried cutting it back a few times and it keeps coming back” 😱I shudder to think of all the saplings he’s unwittingly caused
Lynda73
Yep. That glandular tooth or whatever at the bottom on the leaves is what I look for, and how they smell if you crush a leaf. Toh smells like burnt peanut butter. Walnut smells just kinda astringent.
DecentParsnip42069
You’re supposed to wait more towards the end of summer so the herbicide gets pulled into the root system. Apply to the leaves and/or notch the trunk (careful to not girdle it) and apply on the clean cut. Then hopefully the following spring most or all of the root system will be dead.
IcarianComplex
I’ve heard these trees have a shallow root system too, so they grow and grow and then blow over from the wind once they’re extremely tall. Is this true? I’ve got one in my backyard that’s probably 15’. Been meaning to tell the landlord to deal with it
Left-Bookkeeper-3848
Ew! Ew! Ew! Kill the lanternflies and the tree FAST! 😖
ShelleyRAWarrior
Look up information on how to kill tree of heaven. Best to attack with triclopyr in fall when it is sucking energy into roots from top and do a hack and squirt. Otherwise when you cut it back it sends up an enormous amount of suckers.
A_chance_on_me
I was able to dig out one slightly larger than this in my back yard that had grown from seed. If it’s from a root sucker I don’t know if digging would accomplish anything. I just knew mine was from seed because there was no ToH within 30m of my house, but 75m away a person had a HUGE mature one. I dug a large hole- the root was probably 18” deep I want to say? It was 3 summers ago, and that one hasn’t returned (though I have another one that sprouted between a fence and the sidewalk I have been dealing with ever since that I can’t seem to get rid of. Digging it up when it’s this size is much easier than letting it get bigger and tackling with herbicide.
starfishpounding
Slice and treat before cutting down. They tend to get very oliopathic after being damaged.
The other option for a sapling like this is to dig out the tap root. Easy in sand and a well mulched garden, not so easy in heavy clay or rocky soil.
But, yeah killing it without stumping almost always requires treatment.
TraditionalStart5031
At this size you should be able to dig out the root.
edfoldsred
Watch this video and do what this guy does in the middle of July.
So if tree of heaven is the host plant to later a flies, if we get rid of the tree of heaven lateen fly populations will plummet?
Hoochie_Ma
We call that tree ghetto palm
Tasariel
Lived in Frederick co in my childhood and now am pretty sure this is the type of tree that would spring up in droves seemingly overnight in the thicket behind our yard and sometimes the garden. I always thought it was a type of sumac since I lacked the resources to properly id it. Ah, the bliss of childhood lmao
sixtynighnun
Does anyone have advice on how to ID eastern black walnut vs tree of heaven at this stage?
Fuzzyscience2020
I have had success cutting as much as possible and brushing on stump killer . It has taken time, a few years but pretty successful. Even if I cannot cut an entire stump, I just try a damage enough of the tree and brush on the product.
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Kill those lantern fly babies STAT!!!!!! Then the tree! It is their host plant
Foliar spray is preferred for trees this size. Glyphosate + non-ionic surfactant. Cutting the trunk will encourage roots to sprout in other areas.
Personally I’d use a drop cloth and paint the leaves in order to preserve the surrounding foliage, rather than spray.
The lantern fly babies are the bigger concern, so, if you can, treat both
Ive had ones that size before. I cut it as close to the ground as i could and anytime i saw green, cut that off. It was gone in a season or two. Planted wildflowers over it.
You’re supposed to wait until the fall to ~~cut and then paint~~ hack and squirt. Otherwise there’s a chance it will send up a gazillion mini-me’s.
Halfway down in this link it gives information on control.
[Penn State Tree of Heaven information ](https://extension.psu.edu/tree-of-heaven)
(Edited to fix the method terminology)
Yes. I had a giant (like 5′ diameter) tree of heaven cut down in my yard. Do whatever you need to get rid of it. Glyphosate will deter it, but watch for new sprouts at the base and in surrounding areas. It took 3 years of vigilance pulling/spraying every sprout I saw before those damned roots finally died and stopped sprouting in my yard.
Penn State [guide](https://extension.psu.edu/tree-of-heaven-native-look-alikes) to IDing ToH vs black walnut and staghorn sumac.
Smooth leaflet edges and that horrible burnt peanut butter smell when you snap off a leaf are my go-to ID methods.
Kinda looks like a black walnut to me. If you have them in your area a squirrel likely buried one there and forgot about it. Definitely kill the lantern flies asap
Update: I just spoke to my Dad about it and he said “oh that weed? I’ve tried cutting it back a few times and it keeps coming back” 😱I shudder to think of all the saplings he’s unwittingly caused
Yep. That glandular tooth or whatever at the bottom on the leaves is what I look for, and how they smell if you crush a leaf. Toh smells like burnt peanut butter. Walnut smells just kinda astringent.
You’re supposed to wait more towards the end of summer so the herbicide gets pulled into the root system. Apply to the leaves and/or notch the trunk (careful to not girdle it) and apply on the clean cut. Then hopefully the following spring most or all of the root system will be dead.
I’ve heard these trees have a shallow root system too, so they grow and grow and then blow over from the wind once they’re extremely tall. Is this true? I’ve got one in my backyard that’s probably 15’. Been meaning to tell the landlord to deal with it
Ew! Ew! Ew! Kill the lanternflies and the tree FAST! 😖
Look up information on how to kill tree of heaven. Best to attack with triclopyr in fall when it is sucking energy into roots from top and do a hack and squirt. Otherwise when you cut it back it sends up an enormous amount of suckers.
I was able to dig out one slightly larger than this in my back yard that had grown from seed. If it’s from a root sucker I don’t know if digging would accomplish anything. I just knew mine was from seed because there was no ToH within 30m of my house, but 75m away a person had a HUGE mature one. I dug a large hole- the root was probably 18” deep I want to say? It was 3 summers ago, and that one hasn’t returned (though I have another one that sprouted between a fence and the sidewalk I have been dealing with ever since that I can’t seem to get rid of. Digging it up when it’s this size is much easier than letting it get bigger and tackling with herbicide.
Slice and treat before cutting down. They tend to get very oliopathic after being damaged.
The other option for a sapling like this is to dig out the tap root. Easy in sand and a well mulched garden, not so easy in heavy clay or rocky soil.
But, yeah killing it without stumping almost always requires treatment.
At this size you should be able to dig out the root.
Watch this video and do what this guy does in the middle of July.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2OkDcHhfak
This has pretty much everything you need to know to get rid of Tree of Heaven, including a management calendar. https://extension.psu.edu/tree-of-heaven/
So if tree of heaven is the host plant to later a flies, if we get rid of the tree of heaven lateen fly populations will plummet?
We call that tree ghetto palm
Lived in Frederick co in my childhood and now am pretty sure this is the type of tree that would spring up in droves seemingly overnight in the thicket behind our yard and sometimes the garden. I always thought it was a type of sumac since I lacked the resources to properly id it. Ah, the bliss of childhood lmao
Does anyone have advice on how to ID eastern black walnut vs tree of heaven at this stage?
I have had success cutting as much as possible and brushing on stump killer . It has taken time, a few years but pretty successful. Even if I cannot cut an entire stump, I just try a damage enough of the tree and brush on the product.