Our Evolving Shade Garden – Garden Design – In this video we plant a few more shade plants in our shady area. The soil is really changing back there now.
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this this garden right now is really quite beautiful It’s really come along uh for this part of the year Uh it’s kind of interesting Last year when I was out here in April Griffin’s right here by the way uh at the door uh hoping to get some uh hoping to get some screen time here And he’s been out in the garden with us some uh during the day I think we’ve gosh I don’t know how many plants we’ve put in the ground today and been filming them as we’ve been going But it’s a lot It’s a lot today um several different video shot on this day that will be up over the next few days But this garden really looks really good right now Last year I think it was probably and not until everything completely out that it was looking pretty good Um out here overall I think we’ve really concentrated on what I talk about on things like the weekly garden planner a lot is making sure that you have some sort of year round you know year round things that look good Um and then finding areas that there are certain times of the year just don’t look good at all And plugging something in there just to give some interest in between in between seasons We have um a fat hedra called Angio Star on the other side of the uh door over here that’s climbed up about this high Just believe me it’s over there If you’ve been watching the channel for any length of time variegated fats it’s half fatsia half hedra helix which is English ivy So it’s a it does not adhere to anything like English ivy or climb or isn’t that’s not invasive It doesn’t produce viable seed Uh but then it has the big beautiful leaves and the flowers that fatia has So this is cool combination of the two of them Angioar has a pretty big leaf and actually um it takes a few years for them to really mature But this one right here is about five or 6 inches across now and I think in time gets even a little bit bigger than this Uh this one is called curly and this one’s super interesting It’s not as vigorous of a viner um as as Angioar and some of the green ones and some of the other variegated ones There’s a lot of fat hedra that’s been selected over the years Sports that have come off of them if people have identified as something different uh and then started rooting and cloning This one is variegated Uh slight little u variegation on some of the uh older leaves It actually you know and I’ll just you can see that right there The leaves have to mature quite a bit for that variegation or that white edge to show up on them Uh it’s last year’s early foliage that’s variegated More of that will show up in time but it has a much smaller leaf And I picked this leaf just to compare in size This one you know you’re looking at like two and two in versus five or 6 in there Both are variegated the variegation’s kind of in the same spots but of course this one being you know 10 times more leaf surface shows quite quite a bit more variegation but this one again is a little less vigorous overall It’ll stand up on its own over here I can stake it which it already is just like this and leave it um or I can put something up here in time and tie it up if I want to or whatever we want to do These work as ground covers okay um but really do a better job of being trained as climbers They need to be trained as climbers because again they don’t lock onto anything and they don’t twist around anything Uh but there you go That’s this is a new fat tedra for the garden Um I love these plants They’re really super interesting Energous hybrids are really there’s not a lot of them on the planet This is literally you know fatsia and hedra crossed together That’s why you’ll see the X at the beginning Um when I put the name on the screen it says X Fats Hedra Um typically you’ll see X which is a holly that’s a hybrid of two species When the X comes first that means it was two different genus that were crossed together which is pretty rare that anything on the planet in two two different genre can be crossed together This video and I didn’t even talk about it at the beginning is about shade plants except for one exception We’re going to talk about the next thing is for the sun But our shade area here in the garden is evolving and I’ll talk about that as we go Before we jump back into shade plants uh this the end of our back line back here uh as you get to the north side of the property near the vegetable garden gets really really sunny Uh and we put a um a chef’s choice rosemary uh into this space What I’ll tell you about some of these herbs you know we had salvia fishales here which is sage uh that we cook with uh and it had gotten a little woody uh and gotten tired We actually got a new fourack so we’ll be putting some back in the garden They bloom beautifully They’re great for pollinators And of course it’s the herb sage that we use for cooking I got another one of these chef’s choice rosemaries We really really like this plant Uh rosemary’s also been moved to salvia so I just switched to salvia for a salvia Uh all the salvia are great of course because the rabbits don’t eat them and the deer don’t eat them and you know they bloom for pollinators but the rosemary tends to bloom in the winter time And I’ll say pretty much on most of these woody herbs like the salvia like the rosemary they can get a little tired in time uh and offer you a little less So you can either try to reset prune them a bit or um just plant a new one occasionally Uh so we took out that sage just cuz it again had been beat up a little bit We’re going to put some over there in the vegetable garden uh coming up And I really like the chef’s choice rosemary I think it’s the right combination of orn good ornamental plant uh and culinary plant So it was picked for its high oil content to be a good culinary rosemary and then it was also picked because it gets about 2 and 1/2 ft tall and 3 or 4 feet wide where a lot of the rosemary can get quite big 3 four 5t tall We got 5 foot ones in the neighborhood Um again but they bloom in January February typically for us and if they’re if it happens to be a warm day the pollinators come out and take advantage of that And of course you get rosemary to boot We added a couple hosta to the back line back here When we started this uh project this back line back here was extremely dry in the first few things we put in there Didn’t really kill anything so much as we did Uh things just languished for a while while we got them You know we’d have to just water more We realized it almost too late on a few things where they got super thin and we’ve had to wait for them to recover from it Uh but but uh because I have the wood chips in the path and we’re building these wood chips up and I put wood chips as a barrier between the English ivy and the plants that we planted back here on the in the back garden And we’ve mulched this repeatedly We’re starting to slightly win the battle of slightly more moist conditions Uh so we’d still have to be really careful back here this big southern magnolia big white oak back here and and other things would definitely uh dry would be greedy for the water back there But it is all of a sudden when I dig a hole wow there’s actually moisture down there So that’s kind of nice Uh so again slowly winning that battle over when you start in your shade garden you really need to identify whether or not you have dry shade or moist shade It makes all the difference in the world a lot of our native plant native shrubs and perennials uh to North and South Carolina and a lot of the southeast actually like kind of moist shade conditions with with a lot of exceptions but they’re more that like moist than not Uh so you just have to be careful with what you’re putting in there And when we say water it until it gets established keep in mind it’s going to take a lot longer to become established in those spaces Uh we put in one of the hosta we put in is called white feather Uh this one comes out and is white white white and then matures into this kind of greenish uh white color like it is right now Uh this one came out of a greenhouse so it had been forced to come up I’m sure it was very pretty white when it came out initially and then it had already greened up a bit when we bought it But next year when it emerges from the ground it’ll be bright white for a few weeks uh before fading back into this uh green color and then of course flowering later in the uh later late spring or early summer Uh but that one’s a super super interesting hosta to go along with a very uh with a very large hosta collection that’s out here This is a plant I’ve loved since the first time I saw it This is a podafylm or mayapple called spotty dotty and it is one of the Asian uh ptoilms or may apples It’ll get the red flowers A slightly vigorous growth habit more vigorous upright rigid habit like this one Here’s another um Chinese may apple right next to it that has the red flowers on it You so you can see this one in flower This is what this one’s going to do as well But this one has that spotting on the leaf We also have the native May apples a little further down the line and they tend to be more spring ephemereral like okay meaning that they they pop out of the ground and I see a flower on it now I’ll get stuff to take a b-roll some B-roll of the flowers Our native May apples can really spread across some ground pretty quick Um some of these Chinese May apples are a little less aggressive overall spreading uh in our gardens Good That’s good Uh and but they do tend to be a little more heat tolerant So they will eventually go dormant Uh but when we had the open garden last year I think I mentioned this in a video last week these were still up and they were probably the most photographed thing in the garden because it’s just this and by then the flowers are long gone and you’re like “What in the heck is that thing?” Cuz it just looks like an umbrella uh in the garden Uh but now we’ll have the uh the spotted one next to it Uh in this space it takes a little while on these If you buy one of these little court pots of these this is two maybe three years in the ground now stuff I don’t really remember It’s probably 3 years for it to become that vigorous and tall Plus again this spot is a little drier than they would like They would prefer moist shade But again now that I’m digging back here again you know this year this this all this organic material has started to make a difference And there’s a little more moisture And I can see that our native May apples are quite a bit more happy this year than they were in the past couple years I think this is a good view into what I’m talking about The garden is much more mature now A lot lot of things going on out here A lot of texture a lot of color Uh again when things were small and or asleep much later in the season you know over the last few years is you know again we’re just filling some things in with some evergreens things are starting to grow fill in You know a tiny little aelia now has some size on it and so on and so forth Hydrangeas that are much more vigorous and uh and screening plants that have really started to fill in Although back here not quite as much yet but we’re they’re on their way I mean I think this year we’re really going to have that kind of blocked off finally And it’s been years uh literally years in the making because for the first few years I didn’t do anything to block it because I thought that uh uh we were going to do something else back here that we ch we changed our mind on I’ve got a couple plants that I’m not going to tell you what talk about too much because they’re unavailable really uh in this video but we’ve put in a couple trial plants for um this is an Encore Zelia that’s going to be two years in the making But trust me when I say this Aelia this next one the next two are so good Uh that um you know I wanted to get them in the ground here because I’ve been I we Steph and I saw this one probably three four years ago and she was like “Holy moly when this thing’s in bloom you guys are not going to believe the color of the flowers on that on Gorelia right there.” Um and we’ll show you again We’ll show them to you People are building up numbers on them Uh and uh it’ll be out in the next couple years There’s another one like that Uh this corner back here again was going to be a greenhouse And so last year right before the open garden happened we scrambled and threw some things in the ground really quickly And that literally when I say that’s what we did It’s the 12 things that we happen to have that weren’t in the ground at that time Uh and we we put them back here Hopefully we’ll get some growth on some things We’re going to rearrange a couple things and so on and so forth It’s a little shady back here I’ll probably come under this chair cut this cherry back a bit Um that’s over my head Uh this uh black cherry Uh maybe cut a couple continue to limb that southern magnolia up just a bit to make sure that I get a little cuz in the early part of the day I can get good light back here And then by about 2:00 in the afternoon it’s shaded over from uh from over top High shade you can grow anything under you know full sun plants shade plants all kinds of plants So the oak’s not the problem that’s way up here above my head cuz enough light gets through that and reflected underneath it and everything else It’s these aliens that hang right down above your head You know those are the ones that really shade the plants out This is a white flowering hydrangeanger macrofila It’s got a bud on it already This is a raontent hydrangeanger macrofila It has white flower clusters about this big And when I say it’s Remonant I’ve been down to the greenhouse with these several times over the past few years and I have not seen these not in bloom And uh it’s kind of wild This one’s been cut back and cut back on purpose because the only way you can prove a hydrangeanger is actually remontent meanant means it blooms on old wood and new wood Okay so most when we think about um the hydrangeanger next to stuff if she’ll back up right here this is a variegated This is a variegated hydrangeanger paniculada These bloom on new wood So even if it got damaged during the winter time it wouldn’t matter It’s still going to flower because when it as long as it’s growing this spring it’ll have flowers This one doesn’t flower all that well but I’m as pointing out that paniculadas bloom Typically hydrangeanger macroofilas which there was one in the beginning of the video there uh that I showed and it’s buted up like crazy Typical hydrangeanger macrofilas bloom on old wood last year’s wood Okay But we’ve what we’ve seen here is Ramontent ones that will not only bloom on the old wood uh but even if they get damaged even if even if your husband cuts them down and by accident you know hacking up meatballing your entire garden uh in the winter time no matter what they’ll still end up you’ll still end up with some flowers on them And so this is one of the remantent ones but the only way to prove that a hydrangeanger is remant Okay because there’s a lot of them out there on the world that people say are remantent because they have a tendency to occasionally throw a late flower Uh that doesn’t make it roamant Really the only way to prove it is to have them bloom out in the spring you know in May or whenever they bloom in your area and then cut the thing to the ground Literally cut it to the ground and then let it come back out and see what it will do And if it comes back into full flower again or somewhere not maybe not full full full flower because it’d be hotter part of the summer But it should put on some new flowers and flower throughout the summer and into the early fall And this one right here cut it back bloom heavily cut it back and it’s already budding up as it’s got new growth on it this long already So it’s kind of cool Uh you can actually see it uh in certain plants And I know I just ran my mouth a lot about that but it’s kind it’s kind of cool because we we’ve we’ve seen um cuz a lot of folks like in zone 5 hydrangeanger macrofila sometimes they get burned in the winter time or they or or even here we’ll get a late freeze on them like it’s April 15th as I’m 14th as I’m filming this and that thing’s fully buted up It’s within the realm of possibility it could get knocked back But okay uh couple more plants I think maybe three more real quick um before we wrap this video up This is a new holly called Nellyette It’s so it’s kind of a a smaller growing version of Nelly R Stevens Holly which has been one of the most popular holls in uh the history of this business Uh almost certainly one of the biggest selling plants for me I know as a grower growing them all those years This one has slightly more vigorous upright habit So it’s going to stay slightly more narrow and I think you can see that even in the growth in this container uh that I just put in the ground Uh it’ll flower uh pretty soon And then of course has a pretty heavy berry set Uh but this is going to be the perfect upright narrow holly for somebody who wants one that’s more like 8 to 12 feet rather than 12 to 20 feet Okay And a slightly narrower where Nelly is tends to be a little bit broader at the base So I think this is going to be a big big seller I know a lot of the growers are already uh are already growing this one We saw it was Steph and I toured a bunch of nurseries earlier this year and it was a question we had as we were going Are you doing the are doing nell yet and almost all of them had ordered liners in So I think we’re going to see this one uh a lot of them out in the trade And this I think it’s going to be an easier plant for growers to grow too because it’s a little more vigorously upright Nelly in a threegon container is a hard plant to grow It’s not really until you get an Nelly Stevens Holly about this big that it starts to really take that shape that we know about you know we know of them When they’re small they tend to just have a mind of their own Uh this one I think will be a little easier for growers to clone And so if you’re buying six of them for a screen and you buy six small ones they’re all going to look alike even as small plants So I find that kind of interesting I think you can see back here behind me a lot of a lot this back path really starting to come together has been a long time in the making to get this uh this space Again we’re just fighting the elements some and you’ll have spaces like this in your garden It’s just kind of it’s just kind of normal And then you’ll put things in the wrong place and all kinds of things Uh but I think now this really has started to look good I like these long range views on these paths It’s one of the things behind stuff is that building you know my neighbors building back there Eventually we’ll have this I think before this year’s over we’ll have a lot of it blocked finally And then you know these long range views in the path you really want them to look you know we’ve got a we’ve got an Indian hawthornne back there at the I mean sorry a Japanese maple back there at the end of this line that’ll eventually be a large line of sight piece for that for that path So when you’re thinking about your path layouts you know also think about putting something at the end of them that kind of lures a person to it right um and we’ve done that uh back here as well Uh what is that hosta called that other hosta touch of class Okay The other hosta that got put on the back line back here is this touch of class uh hosta And you want to get closer and show them that one stuff Uh that’s a pretty variegated hosta I love that blue uh and that kind of a chartreuse center on that leaf Uh that’s one that I uh really really drawn to We’ve got a couple that are slightly sim similar to it but not exactly like it But again our hosta collection is almost becoming uh laughably uh large at this point It’s just hard to resist them There’s so many cool hosta out there in the world and so many different shapes and sizes and now red pedals and uh fragrant flowers and non-fragrant flowers and so on and so forth So hosta number I don’t have any idea but hosta number a lot That’s what that one is So one more plant in this video We moved this viburnum nud that was back here this tall over to the native garden If you’re following along with the native project it is leafed out That thing is didn’t miss a beat I didn’t cut it back at all and it didn’t it didn’t miss a beat I’m amazed at that thing over there We’ve got some we’ve got a lot of native plants that are heading that we’ve piling up for that as well So there’ll be a video from that garden pretty soon Uh there was another hydrangeanger paniculada white wedding here Uh we just didn’t need there was all there was three of them originally here And we also took out a butterfly bush that had we kind of tired on a bit over time I’ve got a couple but it’s opened up a big space here in this middle bed in the back And you see the little honey hydrangeanger oakleaf hydrangeanger back here I think it originally got stepped on maybe twice Uh deer ate it to the ground Uh all kinds of various things have happened to that plant and it’s a survivor It is a true survivor Uh it lives on I’m gonna slide it out from that I aanth this the canthus back here is trying to eat it So I’m going I keep hitting that rock U I’m gonna move that uh oakleaf hydrangeanger out in the next week or two And then we added another oakleaf hydrangeanger in here I think we’re going to get a chameleia that’s upright and narrow to go into this space We’ll we’ll show you that when the time comes This oakleaf hydrangeas in the Southern Living plant collection It’s called snowsicle It’s really cool It is a really cool oakleaf hydrangeanger has really crazy long inflloresences on it Uh that are double flowers Uh incredibly incredibly showy plant Uh great fall foliage Great a great version of our native great native uh plant This these bloom on old wood So this is another one you don’t want to be cutting on during the winter time This one’s buted up and it’s got at least two flowers are coming Uh so far it just has leafed out So it’s going to be another week or two before we know how many flowers we’re going to get They won’t be that big this year It’s such a small plant that went in the ground but it’s a nice plant Uh it’s a good looking plant so I’m happy to have it Seen this one for several years and wanted to get my hands on one It’s hardy in zones 6 to9 I saw on the um the person who represents this plant Um I don’t know why it wouldn’t be hardy in zone 5 Typically oakleaf hydrangeas are hardy in zone five So I might have to ask that question Um because I I know the I know the person pretty well In the deep south these typically are kind of semi- evergreen and they’ll get they’ll get that burgundy color on them and kind of hold it through the winter time We were down in North Florida a few weeks ago and oakleaf hydrangeas are just singing in January and February you know with the with the the beautiful leaves from last year still on them through the winter time Then the new leaves come on and push them off Up in the north obviously they’re going to lose they’re going to lose every leaf on it But that snowsicle oakleaf hydrangeanger had been on my list for a while and we finally got our hands on one So there you go There’s some of the outside of the rosemary The rosemary needs lots of sun I think everything else in this video well even that nell uh holly would probably prefer a lot more sun than it’s about to get but it’ll be totally fine back there I can shear it and keep it tight This is a a variegated oakland holly here and it’s in a lot of shade as well And look how nice it looks You know I’ve never sheared that thing We did cut it We did li take a limb off the top of it cuz it was reaching up big and tall this winter But other than that this thing hasn’t been pruned on at all You can see how full it is Uh as long as it’s happy you’re keeping it mulched You’re keeping it reasonably moist You know this these things will bloom in the shade just fine It’ll probably cost me some berries overall It’s not going to bloom as much uh in the shade but I don’t mind that I don’t mind that at all Uh so the rosemary that Nellyette would prefer a little more sun Everything else I think in this video would prefer part shade or even shade uh conditions And there you go There’s our evolving uh backline shade area that’s really been it was early on a battle and now all of a sudden I can dig holes back here and put things in the ground and feel pretty confident that they’re going to take hold without us constantly having to worry about it Thanks for watching
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Thanks Jim, I'm adding few Hosta in my garden.
Everything is looking great!!!! I also enjoyed seeing Griffin's sweet face.
Condolences on Holly 💗🌸🌷🙏🏼. She truly brought joy and happiness to us 💗🙏🏼
You have to check out little champ distyllium. I picked up one from big bloomers and it's stunning.
I really wish I could invest in some of the cool Hostas but we just have way too much deer pressure to bother. I know people have some success with repellents in our area but still ugh
The garden is looking great nice one ❤😊
Looking good!
Is the Nelleyette holly one that isn’t available yet? That seems like it might be perfect for screening my small backyard.
QUESTION: Should I put up a shade cloth over my shade garden in the 100° heat of the TX summer? My garden only gets between two and four hours of sun on a normal day but I don’t know how else to reduce the heat when my plants are wilting. The weather is usually still in the 70s overnight. (Hostas, mistflower, ajuga, potted giant alocasia, Turks Cap if that helps) Thank you!
Griffin was camouflage until you mention him 😂
Griffin's a sweet cutie, I mean, a boyish cutie!
10 points for Griffin Door!
Jim, thanks so much for your shade garden content. I have a big live oak in the front yard that shades my entire lawn, and large overhangs that shades my entire front house landscaping. My entire design is based on your plant recommendations. Also, I had no idea about the "x" coming first in the name meaning two different genus. Amazing information as always.
I love how everything is coming along, and I have renewed faith that my gardens will come along too eventually 😂
My biggest battle is grass and dewberry on my property, as I’m turning full blast, all day sun lawn areas into gardens. Each area takes about 3 years to come into its own and for me to get the running weeds under control. I got a snowsicle (sp?) oak leaf this year too! She’s tiny but I’m excited to watch her grow. Thanks for sharing your garden and knowledge, as always.
I’ve never had a rosemary bloom.
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Griffin's expression made me laugh out loud!
Jim I like this back area of the garden and I understand how plants seem to take a bit longer to gain size in shadier areas….I totally love shade gardens, they have a more peaceful vibe.
I still find myself looking for sweet Holly in the background.
The garden looks so pretty. Here in NJ, we are not even there yet.
What did you do with your White Wedding Hydrangeas Jim? You had mentioned they were a big favorite of yours when you lived in the previous house.
I’ve learned so much about my shade area under a maple from watching you.
You’re such a good teacher, thank you.
The long humid growing season must wear ur sage out cause I have a big beautiful clump that’s like 5 yrs old here in Se MI still going very strong. It does get cut to the ground every spring for size control plus cut in half multiple times during the growing season and still ends up 3 by 3. Its amazing how it will stay semi evergreen through even during the coldest of our winter weather
The Spotty Dotty MayApple is too cute!!!
Griffin is keeping his eye on Mom.😊
Griffin missing his buddy. I've gotten so many great tips and recommendations on plants I didn't realize I needed from this channel. The garden looks beautiful.
Your garden is just stunning! The only thing missing from the video is Holly, but at least she lives on through all of the past videos we can watch!
Howdy Jim and Steff! Hope you have grand day! Hugs and love!❤😊❤
Hi Jim. With so many plants, how do you go about watering your garden? Is that something that's even needed after you've added all that organic matter? Thanks.
Wow, it has really jumped this year! Seems like just yesterday when you could see the entire backyard in one view. 💚
Griffin ponders: “How come Dad gets to dig in the garden and I don’t?”
Garden looks so lush and beautiful Jim & Steph!❤❤
Totally agree with you on the touch of class hosta. I have one on my front yard and have considered buying another even though my space is limited.
Your garden looks wonderful! Such a great combination of plant sizes, textures, and colors!
Hostas…aka “deer candy”!
This video is fantastic!! Heading to big bloomers and took lots of screen shots with ideas. Thank you!
Someone in my neighborhood has a tall tree formed shrub that looks very much like Indian hawthorn. It is blooming pink now in mid April. It is stunning. Do regular hawthorns grow to a 10 ft height or is it a special cultivar?
So—- how many rabbits visit your garden? I must cover early perennials like hosta, coneflowers, even burning bush because rabbits will chew them down. You never talk about rabbits. How come, Jim?😵😉
What are your favorite shade plants?
Oh, no. Did Holly pass? 😭😢😭😢😭😢😭
Fantastic
Thanks, Jim and Stephanie! Your content is fuel for my goal of hosting my own garden tours🌸🐝
All the places I look to buy the oak leaf snowcicle say it requires 6 hours of direct sunlight. Is this just suggested? How much sun is yours getting where it's planted? Seems like a pretty shady location
I’d like to pass something by you. I was told by one gardening professional that many plants labeled shade plants can actually do full sun just fine. They tolerate shade but may do better in more sun, it’s just a matter of keeping them well watered. It didn’t quite sit well in my mind, but I’m still learning. What are your thoughts? I learn so much from you. Thanks!
azaleas – we do not have acidic soil so I have always stayed away from them. How important is the soil ph for them?
they do have amazing color
Hi would you please confirm the new holly variety you mentioned with the upright tendency? Thanks!
I have that hosta Touch of Class and she's a beauty!
You said you could grow just about anything in high shade. I never thought about that! Thank you for sharing! I'd like to learn more about that if you have a chance to comment on it, though I'll try to look it up. Always learning new things, thank you!
Great video. Just a guy talking about plants. No over-the-top high-pitched accent. You know your stuff, and your videos are great! 🌷🪻🌿
What's the variety name of the remontant white macrophylla hydrangea? Even if it's not available yet, I want to keep track of it! I'm in zone 5B with dips into zone 4 and late freezes every few years, never know what will happen… I haven't risked a macrophylla due to that, but I love how they look.