West Texas: I’ve spent the past 12 months experimenting away from milorganite but couldn’t get the deep green from one product. Is there anything out there that’s in one bag that is better? If so, I’m all ears.
Granular fertilizer. First number double digits, second number 0, third number single digit.
ISuperNovaI
what’d you using now?
Trying to determine what current deficiencies you may have, aside from getting a recommended soil test to really dial this in.
Texas in particular has incredibly high Ca in the soil. Likely a nutrient imbalance and your pH has been affected.
Iongdog
Is there a reason milorganite is bad?
Breakpoint
Milorganite is for general health slow release, it isn’t a super food, it won’t instantly make things insanely green
Ricka77_New
Regular proper fertilizer, without dirty pfas and the stink fo shit.
Organically….Moorganite. Yes, it’s a directed at Milo users with that name…lol But it’s all organic, no pfas, sourced from animal poop and composted properly to avoid the front yard port o potty sense…
Not a proven substitute, do your own research, but we don’t have Milo here in Canada. Around a year ago I saw a Youtuber suggesting that chicken manure pellets are the Canadian alternative to Milo.
ironicoutlook
I read that a lab found milorganite has a massive spike in pfas here in recent years.
IIRC there was an abandoned factory that was renovated and instead if replacing the sewerlines they hydroflushed them and this caused the change in readings.
4u2nv2019
Pwoar!!!! Nicely done !! 👍
Beef_Candy
If you can get it, I buy the empro 16-2-3 biosolids fertilizer with chicken manure. Best fertilizer I’ve ever used, and greens up like crazy.
As a direct substitute for milorganite though I would suggest hou-actinite. Same exact stuff as milorganite (waste biosolids) but a bigger prill size, bigger bag (50lb) and lower cost ($9.65/bag)
I buy these at my local ewings in Dallas, not sure where is best out west though.
Mental-Blackberry-61
I thought you couldn’t write “milorganite” in this thread? I have and bot said no.
Spruce-W4yne
Try Clarus Screamin Green.
Edit: you can buy it at Site One
SomeComparison
Ammonium sulfate based fertilizer does way better than a urea based fertilizer. Small quantities often. I do granular but spraying it works too. 1/10lb per 1k every week is what I do. Your soil also needs to have some available iron in it but not nearly as much as people usually assume.
GrimDarkGunner
I gave all my lawn, location, soil, etc. details to GPT and had it do deep research on the best watering, seeding, fertilizing, all the other things, etc. It was pretty cool. Here’s what I’m doing for fertilizer, based on overseeding late April and a plan to overseed beginning of September.
I’m a Milo guy. I’ve tried liquid iron but it seems to fade away a bit a few weeks in. I’ve stopped trying to get it greener than Milo gets it.
z1ggy16
Milo is so expensive per pound of N are you Screwge McDuck? Spray some Fe once a month and spray Urea in the growing season. The only place I’ve seen organics used are very expensive golf clubs.
Also remember, soil is a living thing so if your soil is crap then anything growing in it will be crap too. Get a soil test done if you haven’t and see how much organic material is in there. If not much you could amend with [bio char](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0843NQR9J?ie=UTF8&psc=1) to help increase the organic material which in turn increases uptake of the nutrients and makes using fert more efficient. I did that first year and seemed to help. This year along with the crazy rain in MA, I’m getting thick carpet. Now to fill in the spots from the grub damage last year..
xX-X-X-Xx
This was the first year I didn’t use Milorganite. I used Lesco 30-0-10 and am amazed at how much better it works. I bought a few bags on sale at Lowe’s last fall. This is my go to from now on. I’ll never use Milo again. To top it off it is way too expensive for the coverage. Regardless of what people are saying in the sub. N is what’s giving you the long lasting greening. Yes iron will help but for overall health of the grass you want something better than Milo.
sierra120
Watch your phosphorous levels morganite tends to raise them by alot over prolonged use.
fabricatedstorybot
Idk I just hit the lawn with something from Smiths every 3 or so months and it seems to keep it pretty dark green
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I hate you and all your neighbors do to 🤣
Granular fertilizer. First number double digits, second number 0, third number single digit.
what’d you using now?
Trying to determine what current deficiencies you may have, aside from getting a recommended soil test to really dial this in.
Texas in particular has incredibly high Ca in the soil. Likely a nutrient imbalance and your pH has been affected.
Is there a reason milorganite is bad?
Milorganite is for general health slow release, it isn’t a super food, it won’t instantly make things insanely green
Regular proper fertilizer, without dirty pfas and the stink fo shit.
Organically….Moorganite. Yes, it’s a directed at Milo users with that name…lol But it’s all organic, no pfas, sourced from animal poop and composted properly to avoid the front yard port o potty sense…
[https://www.siteone.com/en/511024-lesco-25-0-6-50-nos-5-fe-turfgrass-granular-fertilizer-50-lb-bag/p/652003](https://www.siteone.com/en/511024-lesco-25-0-6-50-nos-5-fe-turfgrass-granular-fertilizer-50-lb-bag/p/652003)
This will do it.
Not a proven substitute, do your own research, but we don’t have Milo here in Canada. Around a year ago I saw a Youtuber suggesting that chicken manure pellets are the Canadian alternative to Milo.
I read that a lab found milorganite has a massive spike in pfas here in recent years.
IIRC there was an abandoned factory that was renovated and instead if replacing the sewerlines they hydroflushed them and this caused the change in readings.
Pwoar!!!! Nicely done !! 👍
If you can get it, I buy the empro 16-2-3 biosolids fertilizer with chicken manure. Best fertilizer I’ve ever used, and greens up like crazy.
As a direct substitute for milorganite though I would suggest hou-actinite. Same exact stuff as milorganite (waste biosolids) but a bigger prill size, bigger bag (50lb) and lower cost ($9.65/bag)
I buy these at my local ewings in Dallas, not sure where is best out west though.
I thought you couldn’t write “milorganite” in this thread? I have and bot said no.
Try Clarus Screamin Green.
Edit: you can buy it at Site One
Ammonium sulfate based fertilizer does way better than a urea based fertilizer. Small quantities often. I do granular but spraying it works too. 1/10lb per 1k every week is what I do. Your soil also needs to have some available iron in it but not nearly as much as people usually assume.
I gave all my lawn, location, soil, etc. details to GPT and had it do deep research on the best watering, seeding, fertilizing, all the other things, etc. It was pretty cool. Here’s what I’m doing for fertilizer, based on overseeding late April and a plan to overseed beginning of September.
May 27th – starter fertilizer – 18-24-12
Mid-July – light summer feeding – slow-release, low-nitrogen, 15-0-10 at half rate
1st week in Sept. – full-rate fertilizer – 24-0-10 or 30-0-10
Mid / late-October – full-rate fertilizer
Where is the automod to tell us it doesn’t work?
Scotts green max, you pay up a bit but it works great
So are we not using lesco now?
I have one 3 years old milorganite. Is it safe to apply right now. I am in Central Texas
Back to PFAS
Ironite
I used Neighbors Envy 2 weeks ago on my front lawn and was shocked at the results.
https://preview.redd.it/qhss7mg7gf2f1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c95a16fdade23684c3abd32c29577a1af8eadc47
So do we need nitrogen or iron?
I’m a Milo guy. I’ve tried liquid iron but it seems to fade away a bit a few weeks in. I’ve stopped trying to get it greener than Milo gets it.
Milo is so expensive per pound of N are you Screwge McDuck? Spray some Fe once a month and spray Urea in the growing season. The only place I’ve seen organics used are very expensive golf clubs.
deep green is the iron. I just get the [cheap walmart fert](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Expert-Gardener-Lawn-Food-Fertilizer-30-0-4-Plus-2-Iron-33-6-lb-Covers-12-000-Sq-ft/1275456850) and it’s just as good as any Lesco product I’ve tried. Has iron in it too. I’m getting deep green. I did go pretty heavy on it this year.
Also remember, soil is a living thing so if your soil is crap then anything growing in it will be crap too. Get a soil test done if you haven’t and see how much organic material is in there. If not much you could amend with [bio char](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0843NQR9J?ie=UTF8&psc=1) to help increase the organic material which in turn increases uptake of the nutrients and makes using fert more efficient. I did that first year and seemed to help. This year along with the crazy rain in MA, I’m getting thick carpet. Now to fill in the spots from the grub damage last year..
This was the first year I didn’t use Milorganite. I used Lesco 30-0-10 and am amazed at how much better it works. I bought a few bags on sale at Lowe’s last fall. This is my go to from now on. I’ll never use Milo again. To top it off it is way too expensive for the coverage. Regardless of what people are saying in the sub. N is what’s giving you the long lasting greening. Yes iron will help but for overall health of the grass you want something better than Milo.
Watch your phosphorous levels morganite tends to raise them by alot over prolonged use.
Idk I just hit the lawn with something from Smiths every 3 or so months and it seems to keep it pretty dark green
https://preview.redd.it/ye1egex0uf2f1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e609f9e82c38d2eb147b5a6c3e8da68dab4db64c