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Well, I’m just hanging and a swinging with my friend John Turman who graciously invited us back to your very popular garden. Well, I’m glad you’re here. Thanks for coming. Yeah. And now I have to say it’s a little humid today. It’s very humid, very windy, very cloudy. It’s a little all the things we hate. Yeah. And I think we’re going to get more rain. We were supposed to. Yes. Because interestingly, earlier in the week and last week, we had all sorts of rain, but every day it would clear up. No humidity, no nothing. But over Yeah. Yeah. The tide has turned, so to speak. We have had a lot of rain. I got all nerdy last year and finally bought a rain gauge. So, I’ve been watching all of that. And we’ve had over 5 in in the last 5 days at our house. So, you’re kidding. Yeah. Which is just amazing. I heard in southwest Oklahoma they had 9 in. Wow. That’s in a day. They had to close the turnpike and stuff, but uh we kind of sort of gripe about it now, but we’ll certainly be happy for it later. Yeah. Especially those two new trees you have planted out front. What are I couldn’t tell. They’re red bud. Are they red buds? They are. So, you know, is it called Oklahoma City Beautiful that that does these neighborhood tree programs? Well, they did our neighborhood in the fall. Wonderful. So, I think we planted as a neighborhood like 70 something trees. Oh, wow. And so, the four they gave us four choices. Wasn’t happy with any of them really. Uh, but we decided the red bud would at least have some color. Although, there were no buds on them this year. However, just got some leaves. So, but the interesting thing is they’ve got a very unusual shape for a red bud. I mean, yeah. 12 to me because they’re very straight. They’re very tall. And I think of them as more arching and umbrella shaped and kind of low branching. So they’re beautiful and that’s why I couldn’t recognize them immediately, but they’re good size. Yeah, they they were not bad for $50 a tree. That’s a pretty good deal. Are you kidding? Planted. So now I had to pay somebody to come stake them because our wind kept laying them down. They’re native to Oklahoma. So you think they could handle the wind a little bit better? They would, but they don’t. But it was funny that everybody on our street who got trees eventually had to have someone come stake them because they kept falling over. So um leaning towards that Oklahoma capital. I know. So anyway, well what do you say? Want to go for a tour? Let’s go for a tour. Let’s do it. Okay. So we’re going to start where we started, which is we ought to start backwards. We always start backwards. I know. It’s because I always like to show people all of your blues because I think it sets the tone for everything else they’re going to see. This is our third or fourth visit. Oh, I think more than that to Well, I mean to your just to your garden. To your garden. To your garden. Three or four. At least four. Well, despite that, if you are new to the channel, we have so many new followers. You will absolutely adore this as much as our more experienced followers. And let’s start out with just the design of this place. Tell us again when you’re when this Spanish bungalow was built and what informs your aesthetic. Well, it is a Spanish col it’s considered a Spanish revival Spanish colonial revival house. It was built in 1928 and we live in Lincoln Terrace which is one of the historic neighborhoods in Oklahoma City. Right by the capital you’ll be able to see the dime of the capital which I’ve always called the best yard art that we could possibly have. Um, so anyway, and I’ve been here now, we have 26 years. Um, but this space when I saw the house and of course I came through the front door and came out and I was like, “Oh my gosh, what a possibility, another room.” And that’s exactly what it has become. So, um, and that’s how I’ve treated it. And you know, from if you’ve seen other videos or heard you talk or whatever, I’m a maximalist, so all the stuff inside has flowed outside. So that’s why you end up with the wall, the stuff over here. Um, our good friend Roger Rangi had a big hand in figuring some of this out many years ago and I think it’s really aged very well. It really has. I think we did these shelves 20 years ago maybe. And then of course I changed what’s on them but he figured out how to There were these funny little um cement block tiny little shelves sticking out. There were three of them. I was like, “Oh, how do we get rid of those?” And he said, “Well, we’ll make something bigger.” So these just sit on those and then we just created and these are just these are just wood that’s that’s painted to the same same color as as the home itself. So Stuart, do we have a John uh John Turman playlist? The best of John Turman. Okay. So we’ll just add to that playlist, but we’ll also make sure to put a link because you’re such a popular kind of guy. So for those of you who don’t know, John is an interior designer here in Oklahoma City. You have consulted with me on a number of occasions at at my my cottage and at some of our mutual friends homes. So, okay. So, tell me about the blue. And I I know everybody’s going to ask and somewhere we’ve got it. But it seems to me that it’s this blue that informs everything. And I love this. I think it is too. Yes. And and and as we’ve laughed on past times, I don’t remember the name. Yeah. Sherman Williams color. I’ve got it somewhere in the house. I can look it up again. Uh, but it is just a touch of blue out here, which I think works really well. The house, um, when I bought it, the trim was well, the barn red, which is on the shutters, was here, but then all the trim was kind of a sagey green, and so I changed it to this blue. Um, but I didn’t want too much of it, so I left the barn red shutters. Um, and then just did a little bit of the blue here and there. And it’s really more on the back. There’s one little tiny place in the front of the house. You see the blue? Um, oh, really? On the eve, there’s a little funny tile thing that’s repainted the blue. Um, but otherwise it’s more back here. Well, it’s very Ralph Lauren. And it’s also such a great color of blue because it seems like everything you find in blue matches this color of blue. And that’s not always the case. It can be difficult to sometimes match an exact. This blue has green in it, I think. So, it’s not a real It’s not a purple blue. Um, and so I think that lends it to to work with other colors. So, yeah. And I just I I love the thread of blue that’s woven through. So, let’s go over here by this darling little metal set, which you told me uh you’ve there’s they this company has a number of different beastro sets in kind of different styles and in different colors. But boy, it’s fun. It is fun. Yeah, it really is. And and this is a match. I mean, a put together set chairs came from Amazon. And that’s that. Gosh, I wish I knew the name of that. That’s the one you see so many. These tables go with the little UR chairs that are in the back and those were Home Depot. Um, and I bought several of those to get a bunch of chairs. So then I had several of these tables. But but the color difference between but the color but you know what it I don’t think it would even make any difference if there was a variability in color as long as the the background color was was similar. So, this is where this obviously, well, maybe not obviously, is the front yard over here. And there’s just this wonderful wall with this wonderfully contained bamboo, which you and I both know can be problematic. It’s a challenge. And it grows by the hour. Come out here. Yes. And there’ll be something popped up. Was this I can’t remember. No, I never would have planted. Yeah, I didn’t think I didn’t think so. But, you know, never would have done it. And it’s it’s it’ll be pretty probably in another month. It takes about it’s usually into May before it really gets the green all back on it. Yeah. I used to cut it completely down and let it come back up, but that took even longer and it wasn’t a great way to do it. So, now I just kind of I I do um trim on it, but I let the brown leaves fall off on their own. And electric shears. Actually, something you recommended a long time ago, the I don’t know. Oh, the Barnell. Yes. Oh, our favorite. Yeah. the electric ones make it a little too crisp and, you know, too cut. So, yes, I can I can play with it a little more with those. So, yeah. And that’s a that’s a good um I’m glad you brought that up because so many people ask me, Linda, why do you not use electric pruners or electric head shears on all of your boxwood and on all of your evergreens. And it’s because of just that. It bruises the foliage. It cuts literally cuts the foliage, which then results in brown tips. And when you do it by hand, you’ve got more control over keeping your your shears sharp. And I love those barn nails. But I have a new one too that I like. Yeah. That that’s uh Japanese, I think. Okasooni. And they’re wonderful, too. And they’re wonderful, too. So now, so I think I think this little area is just charming. This might be my That’s one of our favorite areas. Yeah. Because in the morning, you could kind of see what’s going on in the neighborhood. You can see all of the charming older homes that we’re both passionate about down the street. But now, let’s just turn, if you haven’t already, Stuart, and get a long view of this thread of you of blue that we talked about. And look, you’ve got a new baby coming up here. Yes. I I can’t decide if that’ll ever do anything. I hate how that tree is so scarred on that side. Um, and there were actually like three of those and I cut two of them off this week. Going to see if the one might ever do anything. Grow up and kind of protect that. We’ll see a little bit. I’m I’m the kind of gardener who if something pops up, I want to see what it does before I pull it up or cut it off. So, you’ll see things throughout the yard. I mean, there probably things people think are weeds, but I’ve let uh lark spurs coming up all over the driveway and all the cracks. I love that. But from a distance, it just looks like weeds growing. Um, and then of course this salvia has come up everywhere this year. Um, and I’ve probably pulled up as much of that as still in the ground. So, we’ll talk about that on the front. We’ll talk about that. But it’s that how high can a sycamore grow? If you cut it down, you’ll never know. And I’ve got seedlings coming up that I don’t recognize. I feel certain that they’re not weeds, but I’m just going to let them do their thing because Yeah. Who knows? They might be something. Sometimes it’s a really cool deal. Sometimes you end up pulling it down after it gets big. So, well, and sometimes you planted it, but you just didn’t remember. Yeah. And and and you didn’t remember. Okay. So, when we take after this break, we’ll come back and we’ll take a stroll from back to front. Well, you are a master at not only staging and all of your garden ornaments, but also a concept that I call elevating the ordinary. that you take plants that really are not that difficult to grow in Oklahoma and you do let them be and you do let them mature so that they become something really special and I think that is your strong suit. So even things like boxwood some of your boxwood are massive aren’t they? Which is great. And but to your point about that, I got so tired of buying exotic things, what I think are exotic, right? Or just new things, whatever, and then killing them because I’m not I’m I mean, I love to garden, but I’m not an expert by any means. So I I just found I wasn’t I was throwing money away and I decided that boxwood especially are one of my favorites and I’ve been doing that for a long time and they work really well. And then just some of the the junipers and all the things, they’re very common plants, but they fill in nicely and they they like you said, they do well in this heat and the wind and all this. And and you you use them in both pots and and and some and in the ground. And I love that. But yeah, you’ve got lots of junipers in pots. I do, which is something I think rather unusual that a lot of us don’t do. And like that boxwood, I think that one’s almost 20 years old. Um I mean it started from a little tiny plant that was just here and and some of them do well and of course every year I lose two or three because you know, you never know what’s going to happen in the winter. And the one over there too is that’s getting to be fairly old. Um, well, and the nice thing is you’ve got kind of the tension between some of your boxwood being more clipped like the way I like to do and then some of it being free form so that it almost in some respects doesn’t even look like a boxwood. And here’s another nod to Oklahoma. The rose rocks. Yeah. With all of your all of your rose rocks. And then you know, we’re one of the like two or three places in the world that you can get rose rocks. So I think it’s so cool that it’s is at Rogers Brothers. Well, that’s one. Yeah, but just Oklahoma in general. And I think the other place is in it’s Iran or some place like that. I mean, they’re just not everywhere. It’s a special. Yeah. They’re just they’re just special. And then I love these fern. And you bring the you bring these in every year. These are foxtail fern. They love the heat. They do. And well, you know, our friend John lets us borrow some space in the greenhouse. So that’s where those were this winter. And it’s so fun to go pick them up and all of a sudden you have instant instant satisfaction and and you they’re you’re just they’re welcomed home like you know like longlost children. Yeah. Friends. Yeah. And they feel and they feel so good. The other thing we were commenting on earlier is that while it’s very humid out and obviously very windy and there won’t be a good hair day for quite a while for you or me. um that there’s this lovely cool breeze through here that that’s that’s always one of the good things. This is the east side of the house. So, even when it’s really hot in the summer, you can sit out here most times because there’s a breeze and and it doesn’t have the west sun hitting it. If you would orient uh people, this goes into your living room. Yes, it does. It goes into your living room and that goes into your office. So, I love the fact that you’ve got this little, you know, initial portico with all of your garden staging, garden ornaments and things. And then you’ve got this out here, which is so cozy and you can tell that it’s something that you would use year round. So, I’m going to ask you what people always ask me. And what’s that? And that is I don’t see any water feature. Well, I tried and it was a disaster. So, um, this actually over here, I’ll show you. Well, it’s and it’s a combination of the bottle bouquet. It’s how this started. Okay. But, um, when we first when I first moved here 20 six years ago, John figured out he wanted to do a water feature. So, he brought this I don’t know what you would even call that. Um, I guess it’s a piece of decorative metal and they ran a tube up in it and did all this stuff. And we had a recirculating motor in the bucket down here. And, and of course, I think it started out with rocks in it. And after about five years of replacing the yeah the pump or the the tube getting stuck or something, finally I just gave up and then we filled it with bottles. So um but it’s just too much trouble here. Yeah, I think I and I I think my answer would be the same. It’s just too much trouble. Um gnawing squirrels on tubing. Um debris broke blows in them. It’s hard enough for me to keep just my birds back. I love the sound. I do too. But it’s um and and right I I limited it to the bird bath. That’s the one thing I still have that I put water in every day. But what are these spectacular? Are these Kimberly Queens? What are these? I think those are macho ferns. I think pretty sure they are. Well, since we share greenhouse space, one of these accidentally came to my house. Is it this one? Yeah, it accidentally came to my house at the other house. And I’m going, where did this come from? And I didn’t know to call you say it’s yours. come and get it. Um, and I would have given you the fern, but I wanted my pot back. That’s one of my good friends. Well, I was happy to give you the fern back. I just didn’t know who it belong who it belonged to. Who it belong to? You know those because they go to the greenhouse, they just get bigger and bigger. I actually do need to do some work on those and divide them and um, you know what? They’re spectacular. Grant, it was really fun to bring all that home and just have instant green. Yeah, my Eugenia came home this year, too. Saw that. Yeah, they’re huge. just huge. Now, one year there was a uh I think the electricity went out or something and and the greenhouse. Yeah. And I was surprised that some of that stuff still still made it. So, you’ve got hydrangeas through here. More potted box. I have to tell a story about this one. I always have a story. So, I went to Lowe’s the other day and I forgot what I was looking for, not boxwood. And I was walking through and somebody had taken this boxwood and carried it from wherever it came from and it was over all sitting by itself and I was like, “Oh, what a pretty boxwood.” And it was reasonably priced and I was like, “I do not need a boxwood.” But it came home with me. So that’s the latest one. It’s hard to say no. It’s a good looking plant. It’s a great looking plant. You can never have too many and there’s always one that’s going to die that you’ll have to replace. But then when one dies, I go buy another one. I don’t just take one that’s here. I go get a new one. So, I think it’s time for an intervention. It might be for the two of us because I really do like those for the two of us. Now, here’s something that looks like it may not have been intentionally planted. This is one of those. Is that a cherry laurel? It’s a cherry laurel. And actually, it was one of the three. Okay. And that one got whacked in one of our storms several years ago, and we finally just cut it all the way down. It’s come back up. So, it’s it’s taking a while, but but it was as big as this. and the top of it got bent over and um it was not doing well. Well, these are great um these are great material for shopping your garden. So, if you ever see any of them come up, I dug one up, put it in a pot, and now I’ve got a nice size topiary that’s starting to I never thought about doing that cuz this does come up in the ground. Yeah. And look at the Look at the size of the leaves. Yeah. Whoa. Now, is that grape ivy or Virginia creeper? It’s not Virginia creeper. It is I think it’s grape ivy. You think it’s grape ivy? I don’t know. I planted that when I moved here, too. Yeah. Um and I finally learned a couple years ago because I wasn’t watering it. I wasn’t watering the foliage and it would turn brown too soon. I finally figured out that if I would spray that when I’m out here watering that it would it would make it through most of the summer. Yeah. And it’s very prone to whitefly. So, and so I’ve not had that problem. Well, lucky you. Lucky you. probably because you got this nice nice breeze through here. And you said this hydrangeanger was Alice, you think? I believe so. I Well, I know it’s an oak leaf, but I think it’s Yeah. But why we love this one is because its panacles are exceptionally long and they make dried dried hydrangea blooms just exceptional as well. And I I brought one from my other house and then it didn’t make it. But I found another one that I’ve planted. It just needs to grow up and become a big girl. Um, so this is just all hydrangeas through here. Yes. In fact, their limelights are in there. And then the one right down low is just a garden variety, you know, like a Easter kind. Yeah. That’s actually done really well. So it’s Yeah. Well, and they are loving this rain. They do like the rain. And here is a sunshine lagustrum that is boy, it’s been beautiful this year. Everywhere. They there’s a I don’t know if you’ve ever noticed but downtown in in Scissor Taylor. No, it’s Marriia Gardens in Marriia Gardens. There’s a huge mass planting. Oh, really? I’ve not seen that. I haven’t been down there. And they let it just grow up and loose like this and all of them are about that tall. And I know in there were some visitors from Nashville here earlier in the week and or late last week and they said that they can’t you can’t plant it in Tennessee because privet there is so invasive. But I’ve never seen it flower. I’ve never seen it. And I think it’s an exceptional plant. So, and really here, every once in a while I see privet coming up, but it’s rare that I pull that out of the Well, especially Well, and never this one. It’s always the never this one. Yeah. So, I think it’s just know thy geography, know thy zone. I think so. And stones, the placement of stones is really good back here. Yeah. I started to say and you do need to watch your, you know, watch your feet, watch your elevations, but in fact, the guy holding the camera doesn’t trip, so it’s still, it’s not too bad. That was one of this year’s repair jobs was these had finally sunk in and there was like this big dip right through here. Um, and we found we were having trouble walking. So, we lifted them and put sanded up sand under them and got them leveled back out. Well, it definitely definitely makes us, you know, makes a statement in an area that’s narrow that I think a lot of people wouldn’t think about really creating a garden in. And what you’ve done with Japanese maples and uh Japanese spreading U’s and some cherry laurels and some holl and definitely hydrangeas, things that can handle shade in Oklahoma. And then what’s nice is they grow so tall reaching for the light that then they get up and over the eve and you really get this arching effect. Video in the past there used to be u juniper from the neighbor yard that was over. Oh that’s right. So the first year after they took all it down which I was sad about everything really struggled but things have acclimated. Oh yeah. And now they’re thriving. And now they’re thriving because they’re getting light. Yeah. Um and which they needed some. They weren’t getting enough before. But that first year was was tough on them. They were not they were not happy campers. No. When they got exposed, but um we all resist change, don’t we? So, what is this, Salvia? That’s black and blue. Black and blue. Boy, it’s a beauty. And I just learned something about that which I didn’t know. This has been here and I wanted some more. And I thought that there were both perennial and annual. And when I went to buy it, I went to the perennial section and she said, “No, that black and blue only comes in annual.” And it’s for some reason in our climate it becomes a perennial. Um I I did not know that. But I don’t and I I’m taking her word for that because I really thought that that there were two kinds. Um so we’ll see cuz supposedly those are the annual ones. So we’ll see if they come back. Well, whatever. It’s a beautiful combination and nothing I like more and you like more than blue and white. And this must be an Annabel. Actually that is a it’s a smooth hydrangeanger. I think you’re right. It is Annabelle. Yeah. And I think there’s an Annabelle over there, too. That one’s definitely limelight. That’s why that one is limelight. That’s limelight. And that one’s limelight. But I think this one is Annabelle. Okay. Which used to be my favorite, but I think I decided limelight and the little sturdier did do better for us. Yes. And it’s a little sturdier, but but mixing them up, I think, is the way to go. Is definitely the way to go. And your hellaors. And I love this transition to the red clay. um red clay bricks. Well, echoed by your ornaments that are in red clay and more and more blue. There’s the brick she was talking about. And it’s just it is just so calming and peaceful back here. And that that was really the attention. It really is just lovely. Um a calm space. Now I have to ask you because this is so enclosed and today it is humid. Do you get mosquitoes back here? Really? How do you treat them? finally succumbed and I now have a service. Do you use pythine products or do you know what they use? I don’t even want to know. You don’t want to know. Yeah. No, we had a a Well, I’ve always kind of tried to battle on them myself and I would do it and sometimes successful, sometimes not. But we had a friend last year who was mosquito bitten and got encphilitis. So it kind of at our age we were like no and I’m out here too much. So um my brother got encphilitis and was very very ill. Yes. So anyway, so now I pay them to come every three weeks. I haven’t seen a mosquito yet. Well, and strangely, I’ve already seen one even though they’ve been here. Um, so well, they’ll they will really be happy before long. We need to make sure we empty out all the receptacles. I do think the air helps. And I don’t let water stand. Um, the only place I have standing water is the bird bath and I change that every day or every other day. So, um, I’m really careful with that. I need to be better about that. Stuart, can we turn around and now look at the long view from here? And I just one thing that I love about your neighborhood and my neighborhood, especially my neighborhood, and that’s how we use string lights everywhere. Um, and in my neighborhood, a lot of string lights in the front as well. I love that as well as the back. And so tell me about your string lights back here. Those they look kind of old-fashioned and they’re very charming. They kind of are. And several years ago, I got them at Target and I I’m not even sure they were meant to be outdoor lights. They might have been Christmas lights. Um but anyway, they’ve been there several years. And um then like five years ago, I realized can’t buy replacement bulbs because that’s what happens with things that you buy at stores like that, you know, they don’t really they’re not intended to go forever, right? The other day I was at a client’s house and she has I realized she had my same lights. She goes, “I want those gone. I want to replace them with something else.” I said, “Please give me your lights. I need the bulbs.” So, I’m going to get some. Well done. Reused. Exactly. Repurpose. Exactly. She was thrilled that I would take them, but uh because I was um getting to the was getting to the point I was going to have to start putting something else in them. And I really do like those frosted bulbs because it’s a very soft kind of a glow. And of course, now they’re covered in dirt, too. So, that makes them even even Well, it just Yeah. Let’s torque again because this is one of my favorite views. And let’s get a still of that, too, because that is just I just love it. It looks so hosiendaike. That’s the goal, you know. Yeah. Very hosiendaike. Really beautiful. Okay. Well, let’s keep going. And just to give people an idea of scale, how what’s the amount of of space would you say from the end over here of your bedroom to the front wall? Oh, probably 50 or 60 feet, you think? Yeah. Yeah. But it seems very long and longer than it probably is because you can meet it. It seems longer than that. I bet I bet it’s 80 or 90 ft. But you can really meander and I think that I think that makes it seem. And boy, all of your hosta look great so far. Not a slug to be I’ve been really lucky with that that they slug hole to be had. So this combo then So overall Stuart, let’s let’s put up a list here. This combination of hydrangeas, use fern, hosta, Japanese maple, boxwood. That’s a dog wood. Yeah. And a and a dog wood here. That is a brilliant combination for a kind of a shady part sun garden, but mostly shady garden. Lots of shady. Yeah, it works well. Great formula. Okay, let’s take a break and we’ll go back to the other room. Okay. And then at the end of the path, we round the corner into the wind. That wind immediately starts uh starts coming up. And look at all of these terracotta. These look like a Roger Rangi kind of thing. The This almost looks like some kind of industrial piping. Well, it’s it’s sewer pipe. That is sewer pipe. Clay sewer pipe. Yeah. Wow. And it was actually This is my idea. I’m not even going to give Roger. Okay, you you go for it. Well, these holl used to be, you know, on the ground and as they got so big, we had to do something so we could walk through here. So, they got lifted, of course, but nothing really wants to grow in here because there are too many roots and it’s just it’s really dark and I felt like there should be something architectural or sculptural or something. So, there was a pile of these at um over at John’s studio and I was like, what would that be like? So, um, we tried it and so we did the the round ones first and then these I had and they were up in the other part of the garden and I just moved those this spring on. Yeah, cuz I I was going to say I don’t remember those. Well, they were they had gotten buried and all the other stuff growing, you know, it just got covered up. Um, because there’s really nothing. I mean, I was going to I wanted to plant some kind of ground cover and I came in here with a shovel. I can’t even dig in there. No. So, it just it has to be that sort of thing. Well, the contrast between the perimeal and the columnar I think is lovely. and you’ve got five. So, it’s it’s that. And then there’s one behind you, which Roger did do um to and we did that to elevate it above the exhaust from the generator. Um because that will kill anything that it hits when it comes out. Um you have to be like like 8 feet out from that. So, lots of people have generators in Oklahoma. Well, this is my version of hiding the darn thing. So, well, well done you. We’re glad we have it. But yes, like this. This was to hide something too. So that’s hiding electrical meters. And actually our uh our uh switch box is outside because when we were building the addition, it was supposed to go in the closet and they weren’t going to let us put built-ins around it. And I was like, “Oh no, we’re not doing that.” So we moved it to the outside of the house. And it’s got a little door in it. And then there’s a little door. There’s a door for each one for one for the switch box and one for the meter. U And I’m not sure you can. It’s legal in Oklahoma City to do this. It’s not legal in all communities to do this. Well, I need to find out because this would be a great solution for my kids in Denver. They’ve got a same the same situation. Stuart, let’s let let’s in fact let’s for everyone. Let’s do a screenshot this right here. And that’s that is totally a John Fluitt design. He figured that out and we came up with it. But I had a client in Edmond. In Edund, the boxes are on the fronts of the houses when they build houses, which is really weird. And so I had a client who was going to do this and they were not allowed to do it. They could not come here because of access the access. So, um and anyway, well, it was done here. But you know, our friend John does lots of things that aren’t always access. But yes, easier to easier to get forgiven than get permission, but no one’s ever said anything about mine and they and it’s not dangerous. It’s just it’s just hiding. I think it’s just Yeah, it’s that’s it. So, okay. I love this this whole ensemble back here. Where’d you get this table? That’s from Seasonal Living and it’s one of those. It’s called Polywood. Um where is Seasonal Living? out on Reno in the furniture area. Um, and I’d had, you know, teak tables before and various things like that. They just don’t last and they’re so expensive and you have to maintain them. So, finally I was like, we’re just going to do this. And I think this is actually aged pretty nicely that Oh, I love the way it’s really know that it’s Hollywood. And I love these. And then those are the chairs that go to the little table. It’s not Costco, but it’s sounds like Costco. I know. I It’s a cut cut, not Cutco. That’s Costco, but it doesn’t have a T in it. Oh, okay. Okay. I think it’s C O S or something like that. Yeah, something like that. Anyhow, I will put a link to whatever it is that we that we can find. And oh my gosh, these Japanese maples back here, they look like they have doubled in size since I was here last. And what is this? That’s a pantry. That was It Oh, it is a pantry. I’m having a hard time looking into the light. Yeah, I grew up with a pantry. Yeah. I think in Oklahoma City, every house used to have one in the backyard. Yeah, cuz I’ve lived in lots of houses where there was a pecan tree in the backyard. Well, they put out good pecans. Well, they do. Our squirrels love them and webworms, right? There’s no problem with that. So, well, the squirrels love everything they do. Okay. So, phenomenon of and so surprising to me. One of the visitors, I can’t remember where they were, which ones where they were from, but they were from out of state. And they were telling me that they their squirrels do not eat their pumpkins. Whoa. What’s wrong with their squirrels? I know that their squirrels leave their pumpkins alone. That’s weird. And I’m going, “Are you kidding me?” She said, “No.” Well, I Why do your squirrels eat your pumpkins? I said, “Oh my gosh, because they’re voracious.” They are. They really are. Yeah. It’s one one of the biggest challenges. Another challenge you and I were talking about this. I so wish, and this is an answer to your question. You know what I love about these coobo baskets that were in my QVC line? They make even your trash look pretty. They do, don’t they? I don’t feel like I have to carry it all the way. I know. I had mine filled with a bunch of of spent tulip bulbs and somebody said, “Oh my goodness, even the trash is pretty.” But I loved these Coobo baskets. They were just wonderful and they were designed especially for my QVC line and now they just can’t design them anymore. That’s so unfortunate. They are they can’t manufacture them anymore. Maybe we need to look into that, John. I think you should. I think we need to look. They’re really good. But I bought three of them and I have one at each each hose area so that whatever’s in my hand could be thrown in the basket and you don’t have to worry about going to the trash can. Yeah. Which I love. So I always forget though. But and now I want to plant in them too because they’re great for planting in because they don’t rot out. And didn’t didn’t they come in two sizes? Yeah. Oh, they come in three sizes. Is this the big And three different colors. And this Yes, this was the largest size. And there’s actually a couple of different a couple of different designs, but I mean, how long have we had these now? It’s been a while. I’ve had mine for quite a while. Yeah. Yeah. I need to look at that. I don’t I don’t necessarily take care of them. Oh, I don’t either. No, they take And not only that, they look better with abuse. The more the dirtier they get, the better. One time I bought this beautiful I don’t know how many bushel basket was. I thought, “Oh, this will be great in the yard.” Wow. Yeah. after about six weeks. Yeah, that was not good. Well, that’s why I wanted to make them in some kind of That was a good deal. You did kind of resin or something. Oh, brunera. Is this bruner? It is. Beautiful. Boy, that wind, man. Is it blowing in more storms tonight? Do you know? I think we’re supposed to have storms tonight. Tonight and rain like three or four days this week. So, can I can’t those the little blue specks look like lights against that green? They’re They’re just so dear. So, I I was watching another video and I need to update my video on 10 things or things not to plant in Oklahoma. Um, but I was looking at what not to plant from someplace else, some other geography, and they were saying like, “Oh, don’t plant forget me knots. Don’t plant lily of the valley. Don’t plant.” And these are things because it becomes invasive because it becomes a overly aggressive there. And I’m thinking, “Oh gosh, we would love that if we could get something.” I’ve tried and tried and tried to put in the valley in it. I know. Me either. They won’t do it. Me either. Um and I’m sure some people have tried growing this creeping wire vine or mulbeckia. I just bought some more at bricks so I can plant it in in pots. Yeah, it’s great in pots with a as a filler. But but this has been here several years now and it keeps coming back. Um yeah, I I love it. I love how lacy and frilly and romantic it looks. And you know it comes in three sized leaves. Did you not realize that? Yeah. Oh, I knew it came in two. Well, there’s a large one and it’s gorgeous. And I’ve only seen it on the in the Northwest of the country. It’s amazing. And and they’re probably they’re goodized leaves. Uh but I’ve never seen it in Oklahoma. Interesting. I haven’t seen it. But this is the one that really seems to do the best. The the little one I’ve had a little bit of trouble growing with it. Although this year some of it did come back. But it’s so dear. Yeah, it’s so dear. It’s one of those kind of plants that like lots of of sedum. And one of the reasons I like boxwood, I love tiny led plants. Oh, and you were asking me, let’s go back a little bit because here we could talk about topiary for for a moment. You are And by the way, this is a kind of spyrhea, isn’t it? Yes. G thread or something like that. Yeah. And it’s I I love it. And I love this color echo off of the juice. This is the time of year when this chartreuse color is just amazing. Beautiful. And of course, this stays that way all year, but it’s so pretty when it comes out. Yeah. And then that’s the mounding one over there, which And this is lemon lime or uh gold. What is it? Lime lime mound spyrhea. I think that’s lime mound spyhea and it illuminates these spaces. Okay. Speaking of something not to plant, even though it’s beautiful here and I didn’t plant it and you didn’t plant it. I’m not I’m not no judgment here, but that’s Hutonia. That’s Hutonia. Yeah. And it is a horror. And people think, “Oh, it looks like English ivy and it’s so pretty and it spreads so nicely, but it will it will take over your world.” No, I have pulled so much out this year. And it has this lovely scent. Oh, really? I didn’t know about that. Is it awful? Now that you pulled it, it’s horrible. It’s truly horrible. I can’t believe there’s a thumbnail right there. Oh, that was good. Oh my. And the thing is it’ll grow everywhere except where you want it to grow to grow and it won’t do it. You know what that’s called? What? Life. That is called life. Anyway, okay. So, we were going You were asking me about this? This myrtle compacta. And you were asking sad. Yeah. Which is a little sad looking, but you had it indoors. I did. And you know, they did so well all winter. And I brought them out. They’ve been out about a week now and they all look a little But you must have had them in a place with really bright lights. They and they got west sun in the window. Yeah. And I was shocked that they did as well as they did, but the change from the house outside was a bit much for them, apparently. Well, actually, even though it’s kind of dripping a little bit, it nevertheless is extremely healthy. So, all you need to do is just clip it pretty hard. I would clip a third of it off. So, I’ll clip some more. Yeah. And I love it mulched in these black stones with this black basket here which used to be blue. Do you remember that it did? It was blue and it is totally totally totally faded out. But you know what? I like it. I kind of do too. But it was funny. It only lasted one year as blue. So, but I you know I I like that because now it’s the perfect color echo to match your faded table. I know. It looks very intentional. Just just claim credit for it. You’re claiming you’re not claiming credit for a lot of things. So, claim credit for for some of these other and you gave me this many years ago as a little tiny cutting. Oh, a lemon cypress. Cypress. And I actually have been able to keep it going. Yeah. Um Oh my goodness. I’m so proud. And you you have that same pon as I do for mulching things in gravel. And well, it is sort of a squirrel deterrent, although they they’ll still get in it. If there’s a will, there’s a way. Yeah. If there’s a will, there’s a way. But I did this terrible thing. We got we got a new garbage disposal. And when I brought all these outside, I had taken the plates in the kitchen and I got a stone in the garbage disposal and I didn’t know it. And of course, we kept hearing it. I was like, “What is that?” And finally, Scott took the little rubber thing out and it actually flipped it out into the sink. Oh, better than into your eye. I just stick my hand down in there. I can’t do it. I cannot I can’t watch him put his hand in there. I can’t do it either. So, I had the tongs out trying to find it, but it was just one little tiny stone, but it had gotten caught in the saucer that was under one of those. Oh, wow. And I was So now I know you have a phobia about that and and you will never put nails in your mouth again because because you he swallowed a picture now. Yeah, that was a fun a fun Christmas. So and but it didn’t kill you. It just gave you a little iron. Just a little iron. Actually, it came out. They they took it. They took it out. It didn’t come out. They took it out. They took it out. Let’s go that direction. Okay. Well, okay. Yes. And on that note, we’ll be right back. Okay. Okay, I want to continue with our gripe session about squirrels a little bit. So, one thing that vexes me all the time is unlike other things, you know, squirrels digging could potentially airate the soil and things like that, but do they ever dig in hard clay? No, they only want to dig in your fresh fertile lomy soil where all of your little seedlings are just coming up and they they do it or in your pots. Excellent. Yes. Yes. Or Yeah. I I don’t know. And Stuart just said what? Oh, they only ever find about 10 to 15% of the squir of the acorns and nuts that they bury. So if you ever feel like they get like they’ve gotten the best of you, know that they haven’t. They haven’t. Yeah. Yeah. But but then they spend that much more time hunting because they’re so inefficient in digging and digging and digging up things. Uh whatever. Okay. Uh so what are these junipers? They’re not blue points. Are they tailored junipers? I did not realize how tall they are. Yeah. Are these tailored junipers? Taylor? Yes. Thank you. They are tailored. Okay. Okay. They look bluer than I think of most tailor junipers, but but they’re lovely and they are our here in Oklahoma. They are our standin for Italian cypress. Absolutely. Because Italian cypress is and you know, we’ve had such horrible winds this year. This one got pushed over completely. So, we had to have it staked. I’ve had like four more plants that have had to be staked because of the wind. The winds this year have been horizon. And I don’t know why this one did it and the other two didn’t. Unless the garage kept it from doing it, but that one it’s still kind of far out there, but I couldn’t even really walk through here. It had gotten pushed over so far. Um, and it’s okay. It’s a shame that that’s happening. Now, be before we move on too much further, you were asking me about a certain plant and if it was on my do not plant list, and it’s not a it’s it’s on my do not plant list not because of do not plant, it will take over your world. That’s not why. But it’s because it just is not reliable here in Oklahoma anymore. And it used to be so reliable. And that is I call it Indian Hawthorne. I don’t know what it real name is. Indian Hawthorn. And they they’re beautiful. They have pretty little pink flowers on them. They were just a really nice. They used to be a reliable evergreen often planted with boxwoods and holl in lie of boxwood and holl. And boy, they just can’t handle our winters anymore. Even in protected areas, they still don’t do it. So yeah, I think I had 20 or something at one time and I think there are three left. None of which look like anything like they should, you know, they’re just Yeah. The uh particularly hard winter we had a number of years back. I mean, people lost whole expanses of them. It was heartbreaking. It was. Okay. The other trademark thing that you guys, if you’re new to this channel, you may not know is whenever there is a casualty, which happens human caused or or otherwise, squirrel caused or otherwise, it takes on a new life in a very archaeological way. It’s brilliant. Well, there are lots of things you can use for mulch besides mulch. So, yes. And this is again a squirrel deterrent, although I have seen them push those out. They all get under it. Or maybe they wanted to dine on fine china. You don’t know. Look, you’ve even got some over here. Oh, that was heartbreaking when that piece broke. That looks like spode, was it? Well, actually, no. I don’t know what it was. That was given to me after it got broken. That’s what people do now. They if they break something, they know that I’ll do something with it, so they give it to me for the garden. Yeah, I’m re I’m recognizing all sorts of patterns. So, no, my sister-in-law had that and it got broken. So, okay. So, we have What you volunteer everything. Volunteer everything. And you call some of them just really overly aggressive including number one which is the salvia and you know the name of it which salvia fencia or fencia and it’s I have tried to grow it and get it to come back and I and I couldn’t. Um in my world it I think it’s lovely and I’ve tried to plant it before. In my world, it always got budworm and it never came back and it would also be prone to spidermite. And then the other you have is that’s spider wart which comes with wart and I like I love those flowers. I love the color of it. It can really be aggressive. I pull that up a lot and I let some of it stay. Yeah. Um and then there is the little fine feathery one is larkxur which is coming up. And it’s so sweet when it’s small like that, isn’t it? and they’ll get, you know, two feet tall before they bloom. So, um, and then a lot of this stuff, you know, I let it bloom and then I pull it out. But, but I think it makes a nice little montage. What is this stuff here? That’s more spiderwe, isn’t it? Is it? I think so. Yeah, it is. It’s just got a I didn’t recognize it. And you’ve got two kind of colors of that happily both in your color palette. It doesn’t make a great cut flower though, sadly. They do that. And And you know, they bloom in the morning and then they close up. Yeah. later in the day. So, it’s not a great but but it is pretty especially well especially when you go across the driveway over there. There’s a lot a big mound of it that looks really nice. And before we go across the driveway, here’s a lot more of it and planted to great effect. And it’s kind of contained in here because this is a brick wall. It’s an a raised uh planter box, if you will. And then this I just did this to one of my Did you raise it up? Yeah. Now, it’s not nearly this big. And I’ll have to probably move it before it gets this big. But but it Yeah, it’s just it makes a stunning small tree and it’s in that chartreuse color you and I just love. And I don’t think a hard winter would kill it back, but if it did, trust me, it would come back up, right? It would come right back. I love them this big. And I think in one of our hard winters, the leaves all come off of it. And yeah, think they did. But this last year, it really didn’t. It kept a lot of the leaves. But what I need to remember this as a small tree for a difficult corner because you talk about a brutal aspect right here. All of the reflected sun off of the concrete drive. This faces west. It’s on in the corner of two white walls with lots of reflected sun and heat. So, if that’s not a testimonial for the ability of a sunshine lagustrum to withstand a southern summer, I don’t know what is. And it’s just just beautiful. And it actually had gotten bigger. I cut that way back in the in January. Wonderful. And this So, that is a lilac, which was gorgeous. And you’ve got a still of that. And Stuart John’s going to send you some stills. So, give me advice on this. So, I’ve never pruned it and it needs to be because it’s getting too big. So, is that something I want to just I I would just gently prune it and you prune after bloom. So, now is the time that you would want to When you say gently, does that mean Okay. So, can I take a third of it away? I would take maybe a quarter of it away because because some of it has beautiful interesting form. But will that Oh, right. The form. But the leaves will it’ll leaf back out, right? Where I take it away. Oh, yeah. No, it will leaf back out. It will leaf back. But you can see it’s it’s especially on this side of this. What is this? A little Kim or a I thought it was that but I don’t think it is. I think a little Kim stays little I think. And this is so it’s not little but it’s I think it’s Are those called Asian lilacs? What are they called? I don’t know but we need to find out. Let’s do is once we get the image of it in bloom. Let’s do a screenshot or let’s do a Google eye on this because I want to know. This is spectacular and I and I was told it wouldn’t grow here and it’s obviously very very very happy. It’s very happy. It’s protected. It’s um but it’s again it’s facing west which slays me. And it does get it gets good drainage of course. I don’t know I don’t know what the variables are in Oklahoma about these lilacs but um it wasn’t recommended that I do that but I did it anyway because I had tried like three or four other things that didn’t grow. So yeah it was time to do this. Well it obviously likes the really great drainage back here and and look this whole expanse and you’ve only got two really major plantings in it. The rest are just No, they didn’t. Yes, just fortuitous uh fortuitous selfseeders. Okay, now we have this which faces east which is our preferred sun in Oklahoma. It faces east. So that means things get afternoon shade. And I don’t think we have ever been here when your peie I don’t think you have either. PE Boulevard, right? Somebody mentioned course they started blooming as soon as it started raining. So they’re a little weathered. Now I need to I need that one. Is that the one that has a really good aroma? I think I don’t know if it’s that one or is it this one? This one’s good, but it’s not. It’s this one. It’s this one. Okay. Because I need to make up for that nastiness. That nastiness. And the thing about pianies is they really do like cold winters. They do. So maybe that’s why maybe it really liked that last blast of cold we got. Um the thing is is that they are fragile beauties in that anytime it rains, high winds. Yeah, it’s um they they just don’t last long. I didn’t see this earlier. And you really can’t plant them in a protected place because they need the sun and Yeah, they do. They need the sun to bloom. So that’s a Jackman Clemetus. Now, do you keep it pinched or did you does is just happy to do that? Done its own thing. Um, and looks like some dais are those daisies back in there. Some daisies. More salvia. More speed wart. Spider wart. Speed wart. Spider wart. Oh, I just smelled it. Now, this is came out strong. Okay, this is something that I I mentioned in my last video that we all need to be watchful for and that’s after all this rains, some things are going to be some things may start looking a little chlorotic like they need iron um because all the nutrients and everything has literally been washed out of the earth. So things are going to probably want a pretty good feed afterwards. And are these dillies? They are huge dillies. And what color do they bloom? I think those are just those standard orange ones. Those were here. Oh, okay. I do have some pretty dillies, but I don’t think those were them. And then here, Stuart, do you recognize these? Oh, yeah. Famous explaining. A couple of little stories are a small uh informed by some experiences with John Turman ended up in my book. And uh anyhow, that was quite frightening. So for those of you here, I won’t tease you, but when these get really long and really beautiful in the fall, they’re a beautiful sage green, very velvety, just the kind of thing that we would like to forge for and bring in to decorate our homes. And I did. And in the middle of the night, I started hearing all of these popping like somebody was I don’t know, like one of those pingpong guns and like ping pong things were going everywhere. And it was these every one of them exploded on you and set out these coinsized penniesized pods everywhere in my in my parlor. And John said that never had never happened to him. Not happened to my house. But well, it scared the heebie she geebies out of Jamie and I and I got up and I looked around. So weird. Oh my gosh. And the fact that they did it at night and not in the daytime. Yeah. And and Yeah. Yeah. When it was quiet. Very pretty. Yeah. It made for a great story though. It really does. Vines look good. And what is this? Oh, I don’t remember. And I love it and I can’t remember. It has little yellow blooms. It is trillium. No, no, it’s not trillium. Okay, that’s our question of the day. What is that? And you don’t see it in Oklahoma very often. Yeah, you don’t see it very much. And there are two pretty good stands of it which I trans for transplanted. Well, it certainly likes it over here. Do you do lots of soil amendment? Not really. Yeah. I mean, I do use hard to do. Oh, I have to tell you a story. You may have known this one. So, Happy Grow, which we all love. Well, we used to love. It’s in a different bag. Yes. And it’s not the same. Oh, it’s not? Well, have you been using it? You think it’s not as good? Oh, it’s not as good. No. Well, I’m still using it. But I went to find it and they like we don’t know. No, it’s in a different bag. Totally change the bag. Yeah. And it’s not nearly as composty. Well, it’s not and it’s much more light colored. It’s got a lot more bark in it and less um I didn’t notice so much more bark than the one I got. But anyway, we were just stunned because I sent my blind guys were going to go get it for me and they got it. They called them. Well, they don’t have it anymore. We went round and round and round and I sent them a picture and finally they talked to somebody of our age and they knew what it was. So, but it’s in a totally different bag, but I hadn’t really caught on because I didn’t spread it this time. They did that, but it wasn’t as good. No, it’s not nearly as So, are you still using it or you going to go to something else? Well, I used it once because we bought a number of bags of it. Um, and I don’t I might try it one more time just to see if that was a fluke, but some of my several of you guys out there, you said the same thing. It’s not the same. It’s not the same animal. So, I’m going to have to now Well, now we need something better cuz I just can’t stand that. I know. It was just wonderful. And here here’s another great example of you romancing the ordinary, a variegated privet, a very old variegated privet. Yeah. That you’ve limed up. And you know, at first when you limb up plants like this, the can the trunks may not be thick enough to make it look as cool as it will later, but you know, you do have to let them mature. And yeah, and you’ve got three of them. Three of them. Yes, there were four and we this two in the middle did something weird. So, we took one of those out and that’s when these got planted and then we let that one we’re going to let that one come back up. But, um, those are 20 something years old, I And I do like the variegation and it looks good in flower arrangements. I like it in flower. I do use it for that sometimes. Um and this is probably what I’m going to have to do because I planted some large Nelly Stevens on the west side of the upper terrace and and I’m sure over time I’m going to have to limb them up to get enough light and and we want this to be because of the driveway on both sides of it. But um it but those in the back which you know they were huge and went to the ground and they just got so wide you couldn’t pass through there. So You do what you have to do. Some of that they’ll, you know, they kind of do it on their own. Sometimes they’ll start because they’re just not getting light, right? So, you start doing it. But, but don’t let your plants boss you. No, you do that. Okay. When we come right back, I’m going to show you a really charming potted garden area. Okay. So, we Google eyed this. And a great thing to be able to do. It is. We have and we have shown that before. And if you guys don’t know how to do it, just go to Google and in the search line you’ll see like a little square. A little square, right? Little square. and you just put it onto whatever it is you’re trying to identify. Hit that little square and it will come up with options. And most of the time it’s right. It’s pretty accurate, right? This is epimedium. Epimeidium. And you can see it’s going to have little these little things that pop up. Get little yellow flowers on them, which is really Or maybe they’ve already flowered and they’re gone. I think that’s what And again, it’s something you don’t often see in the nursery trade here. You do not. Okay. So, let’s now come over here. And I love this. And this is an area that I can’t remember if we were here before you made some restorative changes. You you fixed some walls, some brick wallstyle tree. Yeah, lost a 90-y old tree. So, but now this is really spectacular. So, describe to me what you’ve got going on here. Well, it’s just a pile of stuff. I don’t know. Um, again, all my, you know, standbys, lots of boxwoods. Uh the this is some sort of a uh dog wood. I don’t know the name of it. We’ll have to Google that one and see what it is. There’s some beauty berry growing back in there that provides those great purple berries at some point. So that’s a nice combination. Um and then just some evergreen stuff and um you know nothing nothing unusual at all. It’s just the way it’s placed and and the just the heavenly bamboo nandina. But look at the size of this green mountain box. So that’s a plant that was here when I moved here that we moved. Um and then not the boxwood but the nandina. That’s Yeah. This and this has gotten just huge. Huge. We moved this before too though. Some of these also can be sculpted from the bottom up. Can they? Yes. And I did that with one of mine that was it was a huge box ball that finally just kind of fell open. Okay. And I did it and it and remarkably well we didn’t talk about the really giant one in the front yard. Okay. Okay, let’s see if we might want to do something. I’m getting a little weird about it. And now here here is these are the bottles that made John famous and Steuart and Steuart because Steuart dubbed these the bottle bouquet. And look at how shiny they are from all the rain. I know. Isn’t that great? Cuz I have not cleaned those. I mean, occasionally they do need to be cleaned. Yeah, that’s really great. Now I don’t remember as many blue balls in there. Are those I think it’s the same. Okay. Maybe it’s just because they’re clean and shiny. And see, there’s the little tiny wire vine. Oh, isn’t it cute? Oh, that is small. Yeah, that is cute. And large. You got lots of junipers. So, what are your favorite varieties of junipers to use for container plantings? I don’t know the Well, one of them is called C. What is it called? Not seaside. See something. Uh, that’s what’s in the that up there on the top. Yeah. Um, there’s winter green, there’s blue star, but I don’t find blue star does very well. It tends to fry. Whatever that is. I’ve had good and bad luck with that. So, this one’s doing well. There’s another one over there, but then some of the others have died. So, yeah. Well, the thing is about here’s what makes Okay, that’s what I was going to say. Here’s what makes me buy it. If it’s $9.99, then I buy it and and then it dies. It dies. You know, and yes, I almost treat them like annual. Sometimes it’s even less and even less than that. Um, do you ever feel like you have too many pots? And have you ever counted how many pots you have? No, but we had a a another one of my silly stories. We had a fire at the end of the street during one of the windstorms. The an electrical circuit popped and caught the yard on fire. So, we were all out down there. I’m walking back toward the house. I’m coming down the sidewalk and I look over here. I’m like, “Oh my god, that’s just too much. What is going on out here?” So, did you remove some? No. No, I didn’t. I cleaned it up and things are growing again. This was before everything got pretty, but it just looked like some old person’s house that you’ve driven by and it was like, “Oh my, what a mess.” Well, so then here here’s here’s the tip. A lot of times things do look cluttered and unckempt and like you’ve got too many before they fill out. And so sometimes what you can do is kind of take them away. They fill out, then you put them, you know, then they put them back because there is a fine line between really chic maximalism and junky. I mean, there really is. There is. And I and I may have crossed it here still. I don’t think he crossed it here, but but but when nothing was leafed out. I can definitely see how there were just all these I do you remember there’s a there used to a house on 50th Street over near Target and they had iris planted in the in just the little plastic gardening buckets, you know, and buckets I think too. And they were all Do you remember that? They were all around the whole house. Just horrible. Well, that’s what I saw when I walked back up to the house that day and I was like, “Oh, this is something’s got to happen here.” But it really was clean up and I think that’s but but at some point you have to say, “Okay, John, you’ve crossed the line.” Yeah. Yeah. At some point it it does become cringeworthy. There’s a lot there just there too many thing like like it’s right in here. There just too many little things I think still and a lot of it is preference, you know, and some people like maximalism and some people like minimalism and I’m kind of I’m kind of in between. Um, but I think you it’s it’s like I always say, you do you, I’ll do me. And as long as it makes you happy and it’s tasteful. Well, and and I’ve always said, you should take pictures of your house or walk away from it and come actually anything, not just your house, but get a whole But really a picture is the best thing because then you can literally look at it and just see what others are seeing, you know, and it’s and it helps to sometimes walk and come back from a different direction than you. Well, that’s what happened. I hadn’t been down there and come back this way. That’s another weird tip. Okay. Well, I love Oh, Stewart right here. This shot, this just backlit explosion of purple with a fabulous cloudy sky behind it is just wonderful. And oh, this is my iris lament. I really wish iris would stay in bloom longer because of course their foliage I think really also plays plays a great role. But boy, those blooms are just so beautiful. And right here, Stuart, let’s put an an image that John took when the iris were in full bloom. So, tell me what else you got going on in here. Salvia, the same stuff. And then this, I think, is May Night Salvia that’s been there a long time. Um, there’s more nandina, more boxwoods, it’s a red bud. And then you tell me, what’s that down there? I don’t even remember planting. This is one of those things I don’t remember planting. I had never seen that until this year. Oh. Uh, I don’t think it’s Ansonia. I’m not sure. I truly don’t remember doing it. Yeah. Okay. We may have to Google that. Let’s just Google that and see what it comes up to be. And we’ll also give you guys a lesson in how to do it. So, you go to your Google app. Okay. Up here on the search bar, see that little square? What is that an icon for, Steuart? Is looks like it’s supposed to be a camera. I think it’s a camera. Okay. A camera. Okay. So you hit on that because you’re still kind of using your camera to do this. You’re still kind of Okay. Well, then you have the choice either to take a picture or use an existing picture. Yeah. Yeah. And so I just kind of I’m searching it right there. Hit that button and blue star. Amsonia. It is amsonia. It’s blue star. Buying that and putting that in the ground. I’m sure I did. Well, it’s a it’s a per it’s a perfect lavender. So I was if it’s lavender or purple, you know, I bought it. And is this that huge rubecia? Yes, it is. That gold uh what’s it called? Maxima. Yes, I think that’s right. Rebecca Maxima and it grows huge. And then I even like the nandina at this stage where it puts out the the little butterflies and I like to use those cut. I don’t have it anymore, but cut those. And this nandina has really spread. I think that’s at some point going to need some editing, but but it’s happy now. It’s very happy. It’s not leggy. whatsoever. And this GKO tree over here is incredible. And I can’t believe how tall this salvia got. It might even be a different cultivar than Frenzia. Can I like cut that down and try to keep it a little more under control? Oh, yeah. You can cut it down all the way back. But not all the way down. But like, can I like if I took it half down, would it then bush out more or Okay, I probably need to do some of that because it u I mean, it’s taken over and I really have pulled a ton out in here. And I love this euphoria. And I think, have you brought me some of this before to try to get it to grow? I don’t remember. Maybe I might have to, you know, that’s another one of those things that just comes wherever it comes up wherever it wants to. Yeah. It does its own thing. You’ve got some tall flocks back here. You’ve got some looks like gourd. Um, so it’s just it’s just marvelous, darling. So, let’s talk about this foxwood. Okay, so this is the one that I absolutely adored. It was in the back where the generator went and we moved it, right? And it is alive. It’s not exactly pretty. So, what what what should we do? Okay. When you’re over on this side, it looks better. Okay. A lot of this h Mine did the same. The one that I pruned up kind of like this. It It got winter burn bronzing. Uh but it’s got new growth coming out from it, so it’s fine. So, here is here’s the doctor’s prescription. So, I have some stuff. It’s called Top Buxus fertilizer. It is great stuff. It was initially developed to help with boxwood blight. So, we’re going to fertilize this next time you come to my house. And then I’m going to give you some spray also by Topboxes called Restore and Protect. Uhhuh. And you’re going to spray this. Okay. And it will be beautiful. And then I would come in here with just some judicious pruning and it will benefit from some of that pruning. Like I think I would lose this one right here maybe. Anyhow, stand back, play with it a little bit. Okay. And and and part like this side of it is much denser than this side, right? So it doesn’t have a good balance going on. Well, you can and this is the time to do it when it’s putting on active growth. So you can you can thin this out more so that it’s more balanced and you can prioritize cutting the branches that have the foliage that doesn’t look as good. Uh but no, this is spectacular and we’ll get it looking to the back porch. We’ll get it looking healthy again. And you’re point you’re pointing to the back porch where we started. And you’ve got Don’t you love husker red? Uhhuh. pen stem. And mine went to seed and it’s gone everywhere. Well, that that was just a plant or two. It’s, you know, that’s been there years. That’s a good Oklahoma plant. That’s a great Oklahoma plant, and I will get you more of it to plant some more even in there. That would be beautiful. Well, thank you, my friend. It looks stunning as always. We will add this to the John Turman playlist. And John is he is researching a couple of places, couple of homes, interiors that might we might be able to visit at some point at some point in time. And okay, and I haven’t asked you yet, so I might as well put you on the spot and ask you on camera. We need to go thrifting again. Yes, we do. Okay. So, where where should we go? Well, I still want to check out there’s a place in Edund that I think we should go. Um Okay. That I hear about. I’ve not been there. Okay. So, maybe we should do that. Okay. Um, and u I was in Norman the other day and I had 30 minutes to kill and I thought, “Oh, I’m going to go to Goodwill. It was a bomb.” So, you just don’t know. You know, you don’t know. And and um boy, my sister, she’s become the thrifting queen. She has gotten I I cannot believe the clothing that she’s gotten. Cashmere. Oh, I mean, all sorts of stuff. So, um Okay. Well, no guts, no glory. It’s a thrifting risk worth taking. Yes. So, what are you are you heavy crazy busy next week? Yes. Okay. Next week is uh procedure week. Oh, okay. So, Okay. Well, we won’t go into that right now, but we will. So, later in the month. Okay. Okay. Well, I’m I’m glad to know that. I didn’t know you had scheduled it. Yes, it was scheduled. So, Okay. Well, good luck because I’m on Medicare now. Well, good luck. Yeah, good luck. Good luck with both of those things. With both of those things, right? Good luck with those both of those things. Okay. Thanks you. Thank you guys for hanging out with us today. We love hanging out with our buddy John. He’s rapidly becoming a lot more popular than Mwah and we will we will we will add this to his playlist and more to come. All right. Definitely more to come. Glad you guys were here. Love you. I almost blew the phone out of my hand. Okay. I did not know you were having so a week from Thursday. So the end. Okay. And then after that then I think it’s a couple of day recovery. So if all goes well. There we go. Oh, good. Good. Good.