Keep in mind that we have zero actual scientific evidence to support these types of conclusions. This was a jury award. Juries are the generally the ones chosen from the group that have nothing better to do and not smart enough to say the key phrases that can get them eliminated. And they are literally the farthest from subject matter experts – one or the other side will move to eliminate experts depending on what field they’re in because they’d consider them too prejudiced to hear their case. And then both parties have to dumb down the science so that a jury has any hope of understanding. Really, cases like this have nothing to do with scientific findings and more to do with how sorry the jury feels for the plaintiff and how much they hate the defendant company.
If this was between Joe and Bob and Bob was mad Joe made some chemical that Bob claimed gave him cancer without any actual scientific rationale, Bob would be laughed out of court; but because Bayer has been vilified over the last few decades, people hail this as a victory for the little guy. Unfortunately this just means people are afraid of what’s likely the safest effective herbicide we have available and they’ll just turn to worse, more environmentally stable options.
Repulsive_Tailor666
People are just rounding errors for these companies
tastemycookies
What doesn’t cause cancer these days? If you spray in flip flops and no gloves then yeah. It’s like not wearing a hat and being surprised you get melanoma on your head.
madpiratebippy
Hell yeah! My dad died with 4 kinds of cancer caused by glyphosates. That stuff is known to cause cancer, and it’s been impossible to hold the companies that make it accountable when they know and have had documents leaked showing they know.
Fuck Bayer, fuck Monsanto.
Greasystools
Funny I just saw an ad for legislation to address the rampant lawsuits of mean people aimed at fragile, bullied pesticide corporations. It sounded pretty sad
vmsear
Most countries including my own have outlawed this stuff. But if you get on the gardening sites the Americans defend it like gold. I never get so many downvotes as when I point out that it is illegal almost everywhere for a reason.
Beneficial-Focus3702
Anyone have any actual facts about whether it does or doesn’t? Lots of emotions here but few facts presented.
Archaic_1
Our judicial system is so broken. Dozens of peer reviewed articles that conclusively state that glyphosphate absolutely does NOT cause cancer, but a plaintiffs lawyer just keeps fishing for 12 jurors dumb enough to ignore science and just wing it on feelings.
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Keep in mind that we have zero actual scientific evidence to support these types of conclusions. This was a jury award. Juries are the generally the ones chosen from the group that have nothing better to do and not smart enough to say the key phrases that can get them eliminated. And they are literally the farthest from subject matter experts – one or the other side will move to eliminate experts depending on what field they’re in because they’d consider them too prejudiced to hear their case. And then both parties have to dumb down the science so that a jury has any hope of understanding. Really, cases like this have nothing to do with scientific findings and more to do with how sorry the jury feels for the plaintiff and how much they hate the defendant company.
If this was between Joe and Bob and Bob was mad Joe made some chemical that Bob claimed gave him cancer without any actual scientific rationale, Bob would be laughed out of court; but because Bayer has been vilified over the last few decades, people hail this as a victory for the little guy. Unfortunately this just means people are afraid of what’s likely the safest effective herbicide we have available and they’ll just turn to worse, more environmentally stable options.
People are just rounding errors for these companies
What doesn’t cause cancer these days? If you spray in flip flops and no gloves then yeah. It’s like not wearing a hat and being surprised you get melanoma on your head.
Hell yeah! My dad died with 4 kinds of cancer caused by glyphosates. That stuff is known to cause cancer, and it’s been impossible to hold the companies that make it accountable when they know and have had documents leaked showing they know.
Fuck Bayer, fuck Monsanto.
Funny I just saw an ad for legislation to address the rampant lawsuits of mean people aimed at fragile, bullied pesticide corporations. It sounded pretty sad
Most countries including my own have outlawed this stuff. But if you get on the gardening sites the Americans defend it like gold. I never get so many downvotes as when I point out that it is illegal almost everywhere for a reason.
Anyone have any actual facts about whether it does or doesn’t? Lots of emotions here but few facts presented.
Our judicial system is so broken. Dozens of peer reviewed articles that conclusively state that glyphosphate absolutely does NOT cause cancer, but a plaintiffs lawyer just keeps fishing for 12 jurors dumb enough to ignore science and just wing it on feelings.